[aherman]

Does an EV charging station outlet require a disconnect or does the breaker itself count as the disconnect?

 

[Awg-Dawg]

Does an EV charging station outlet require a disconnect or does the breaker itself count as the disconnect?

I have zero experience with those chargers.

But, if it is a receptacle, wouldnt the receptacle qualify as a disconnect?

Edit to add, I see your talking about the charger. I don't know if it needs one. I wouldn't think so tho.

 

[Giorgio.g]

Anything under 50A does not require a disconnect, if it's 240v 60A and up a disconnect must be installed as per article 625 of NEC

 

[CraigV]

Anything under 50A does not require a disconnect, if it's 240v 60A and up a disconnect must be installed as per article 625 of NEC

625.23 Disconnecting Means. For electric vehicle supply equipment rated more than 60 amperes or more than 150 volts to ground, the disconnecting means shall be provided and installed in a readily accessible location. The disconnecting means shall be capable of being locked in the open position.

That's interesting wording. Note the "more than" in two locations in the sentence, and that the voltage reference point is ground, not across phases.

So a 60 amp, 240v charger does not need a disconnecting means. It's not "more than 60 amps", and is not "more than 150 volts to ground".

You can almost guarantee this one is misinterpreted by inspectors all over.

 

[8V71]

625.23 Disconnecting Means. For electric vehicle supply equipment rated more than 60 amperes or more than 150 volts to ground, the disconnecting means shall be provided and installed in a readily accessible location. The disconnecting means shall be capable of being locked in the open position.

That's interesting wording. Note the "more than" in two locations in the sentence, and that the voltage reference point is ground, not across phases.

So a 60 amp, 240v charger does not need a disconnecting means. It's not "more than 60 amps", and is not "more than 150 volts to ground".

You can almost guarantee this one is misinterpreted by inspectors all over.

Do these chargers output AC or DC? Could they be talking about output ratings?

 

[BlackHowling]

Do these chargers output AC or DC? Could they be talking about output ratings?

Do chargers usually have a reference to ground?

 

[8V71]

Do chargers usually have a reference to ground?

I don't know anything about these. DC out or just AC to a charger installed in the vehicle?

I'm pretty sure the negative on a regular automotive battery charger is bonded to the AC ground if that's what you mean.

 

[BlackHowling]

I don't know anything about these. DC out or just AC to a charger installed in the vehicle? I'm pretty sure the negative on a regular automotive battery charger is bonded to the AC ground if that's what you mean.

Yea that pretty much answered my question. Haven't had much experience with chargers or DC. I think it would be pretty unlikely to have 150+ dc on these chargers. Maybe that code is for "quick" chargers that use 600y or 480y systems. I.e commercial applications

 

[mertabird]

625.23 Disconnecting Means. For electric vehicle supply equipment rated more than 60 amperes or more than 150 volts to ground, the disconnecting means shall be provided and installed in a readily accessible location. The disconnecting means shall be capable of being locked in the open position.

That's interesting wording. Note the "more than" in two locations in the sentence, and that the voltage reference point is ground, not across phases.

So a 60 amp, 240v charger does not need a disconnecting means. It's not "more than 60 amps", and is not "more than 150 volts to ground".

You can almost guarantee this one is misinterpreted by inspectors all over.

Yes... read through the 2008 article just this week and saw this. Does seem to be for commercial installations 277v or more or more than 60A.

 

[Southeast Power]

I just installed an outlet for a Tesla.
They specified a 14-50 so, this was two hot a neutral and a ground.
I charged 100per foot plus the outlet, price $28 and a breaker. $1200.