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A customer of mine at his shop is tripping gfis with his diesel engine block heater. Plugged into a non gfi outlet it works fine. The heater is for a 2000 f-450. Anyone experience this before?
 

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We had them here years ago. When the block heaters went bad it hurt like a mother some mornings until we installed GFCI's.
You can guess what was wrong.
 

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You didnt have shoes on.
We parked the trucked nose to tail and touching 2 was shocking at times. The guy in the garage who made the cords for the plugs was nice enough to solidly ground the trucks frame. The bad part was the conduit that ran down the walls and loading dock was rotted and falling apart in spots. There was no ground wire run back to the panel.
 

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95% of my 'gfci tripping' calls are simply due to them doing their job

in fact, i really think there should be a 'thank your gfci day' for all the incessant complainers out there to realize they may not have been around to beeeaatch w/o them


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95% of my 'gfci tripping' calls are simply due to them doing their job.
True of virtually every protection scheme I can think of: GFCIs, fuses, motor overloads, breakers, protective relays, you name it. Rule #1: It's most likely not a problem with the protective device.
 

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True of virtually every protection scheme I can think of: GFCIs, fuses, motor overloads, breakers, protective relays, you name it. Rule #1: It's most likely not a problem with the protective device.
But what is depressing is that often the same people who would never even consider doing away with any of those items have no problem with getting rid of the GFCI.:(
 

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I installed an outside GFI for a block heater a couple years back. Months after, our office person called me and asked why I put a GFI in for the block heater. I said, well, because it's required to be a GFI. She told me that I had to go back and change it out to a regular receptacle because most block heaters will trip a GFI. She also told me that an inspector told them it was OK.

I told her to have someone else do it. She did. Not for this reason in particular, but I do not work there anymore.
 

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i know its off subject a bit, but in my house my garage door openers, my basement freezer, and sump pump are not on gfi's. to me, i want all these systems to work. i have heard that newer motors aren't supposed to nuisance trip. why chance it. whether it being a buttload of spoiled meat, or having to get out of my car when its snowing to beat hell, to come home to a flooded basement. i liked the old ways. have a single outlet for each. maybe i will do assured grounding quarterly on all these...:thumbup:
 

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i know its off subject a bit, but in my house my garage door openers, my basement freezer, and sump pump are not on gfi's. to me, i want all these systems to work. i have heard that newer motors aren't supposed to nuisance trip. why chance it. whether it being a buttload of spoiled meat, or having to get out of my car when its snowing to beat hell, to come home to a flooded basement. i liked the old ways. have a single outlet for each. maybe i will do assured grounding quarterly on all these...:thumbup:
Does your state have an exception for that?
 

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I just had a call about a month ago or so saying their outside receptacle was not working.
Went there and found the hot wire was corroded.
Told them I had to put in a gfci and did.
Got call next day, saying their block heater was tripping it, they said anything they plug in would not work.

Went back thinking maybe faulty gfci, pressed reset and plugged stuff in, all worked fine, even ran my heat gun.

Told caretaker what was happening and they said to leave it, renter probably had their cord sitting in water, or block heater, was old diesel truck.
 

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95% of my 'gfci tripping' calls are simply due to them doing their job

in fact, i really think there should be a 'thank your gfci day' for all the incessant complainers out there to realize they may not have been around to beeeaatch w/o them


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When I was in the aquarium hobby I had some very long winded inter-webs arguments with people that hated GFIC, every now and then one of them would stop posting here or there. No obituary or nothing, they just stopped posting.
 

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i know its off subject a bit, but in my house my garage door openers, my basement freezer, and sump pump are not on gfi's. to me, i want all these systems to work. i have heard that newer motors aren't supposed to nuisance trip. why chance it. whether it being a buttload of spoiled meat, or having to get out of my car when its snowing to beat hell, to come home to a flooded basement. i liked the old ways. have a single outlet for each. maybe i will do assured grounding quarterly on all these...:thumbup:
Yeah, for sure.

It would be much better for you or a family member to get a shock or even killed vs replacing some spoiled meat or the hell of stepping out of the car in the snow.:jester:

I am sure you have the sump pump on battery back up and auto generator as well in case of utility failure. :whistling2:
 
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