I can't relate to this at all. There are several foreman in our IE division serving multiple buildings. I am one of them, albeit the newest and youngest. There is no lead foreman, there is only us and we all report to the maintenance super and anyone above him. The foremen hardly work together or even see each other. There is no closed/open door meetings and no ones making an example out of anyone. Everyone is made fully aware of their duties and obligations and we fail together or we succeed together. Sure I know that I don't have to go on the roof when an exchanger freezes up in the winter, but they know that too, so I will sometimes. There's a couple different types of leaders, one of them is someone who only knows how to delegate down and hand out shít work.jontar said:Rate the following, it will let you know it your ready for Supervisor. Two superintendents call you "upstairs" for a talk, one of them gets up and closes the door, "for a closed door meeting". How bad do you think that is. Its actually not that bad. Two superintendents call you "upstairs", they forget to close the door, these ones are bad. They want to use you as an example, for others.
Your place seems far more structured than mine. I don't even know where you can promote to after foreman, that position doesn't exist yet here. The positive thing is we always have the opportunity to relocate to a better part of the country or the world. Although I've never seen anyone from IE transfer to an overseas plant, probably wouldn't make much sensejontar said:Yes there are several types of leaders, I have taken several leasdership courses, I'm sent to them every 6 months. I have one more supervisor training course to complete, before lead into Superintendent 1 and 2. Once the last 3 are done, historically the supervisor, will when the time is right and has completed the requirements, be promoted to Superintendent. Yes there are 3-4 more teirs of managers, I deal with them when asked/required to do so. Its not everyday, so I never mentioned them, I seen the one directly above the superintendents this morning in the morning meeting. I'll see the one above him tomorowo. Its not a huge deal, they are not scared to let you know if you they think you need to know something or correct something they saw. I had a Devicenet problem in an MCC with an E3+, that one of the shift electricians reported, we accidently took down Train B, when online with RSNetworksforDevicenet checking the parameter settings and the Devicenet tree. The line shut in. It took us 45 minutes to get the problem solved and the line up and running. Trust me the meeting that followed the next day was an open door type. I have personally had the enjoyment of sitting in a 4 of these open door type, they are super fun. Theres more to being a foreman / supervisor then the extra money. Yes the extra money can be nice, I stand by the statement it doesn't always seem like it through.