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I'm doing work at this house I've been working on all week..ran a new 15 amp home run for fridge ...fridge has been plugged in all week..no problems...home owner is now installing all new kitchen cabinets from ikea(don't ask)..anyway they plugged in to new 20 amp gfi rceptacles(home run nothing else on on circuit)and he's saying the gfi is tripping. I explained to him the operation of gfi's and how sensitive they are and he is adamant that there is something wrong with the receptacle...he is as stubborn as a mule..he owes me the last 20% .how do you guys handle something like this when you know you're right and the homeowner is an idiot???!
 

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I'm doing work at this house I've been working on all week..ran a new 15 amp home run for fridge ...fridge has been plugged in all week..no problems...home owner is now installing all new kitchen cabinets from ikea(don't ask)..anyway they plugged in to new 20 amp gfi rceptacles(home run nothing else on on circuit)and he's saying the gfi is tripping. I explained to him the operation of gfi's and how sensitive they are and he is adamant that there is something wrong with the receptacle...he is as stubborn as a mule..he owes me the last 20% .how do you guys handle something like this when you know you're right and the homeowner is an idiot???!
Fridges are notorious for tripping GFCIs. Something with the compressors. If it's an older fridge it gets worse. Some manufactures recommend not using GFCIs anyway. You really don't want to take a risk of the GFCI tripping and spoiling your food. I would do my best to explain this to the customer. You could even put a load splitter on the fridge and measure the hot and neutral at the same time with a clamp meter. If it gives you a reading then there's your proof to the leakage current tripping the GFCI. Put the meter on max/min and wait for the compressor or ice maker to kick on. You could also call the fridge manufacture and see what they say about GFCI protection and their product. Or replace the receptacle and when it trips explain it all over to him again.
 

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Tell him to trot down to Home Depot and buy a 3-pack of GFCIs and change them out himself. Once he gets the third one installed, maybe he'll realize you were telling the truth.
 

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I have had my fridge on a gfci for 10 years- no issue. All commercial refrigerators in kitchen need to be gfci. If the gfci is tripping then there is some leakage on the compressor that could be potential dangerous. The gfci is doing its job. Fix the compressor or get a new refrigerator
 

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Seen lots of bad defrost circuits trip GFCIs, I know compressors are supposed to be notorious for it, too.

If it was me, first I'd plug it into a couple different GFCIs to be sure the problem followed the fridge. Then I'd take multimeter and put it on "milliamps" in series with the equipment ground wire and show him the current flow to demonstrate the problem.
 

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Had this problem with a washing machine, I just swapped receps with the dryer and the problem stayed with the washing machine.

Loan him a cord and plug it into a kitchen recep, if it still trips you know it's the frige. If it stops tripping you know it's the GFCi.
 

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We have a really nice fridge here, all the bells & whistles...:thumbup:

Came from a 2nd home, gfci tripped via lightning strike

~CS~
 

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ran a new 15 amp home run for fridge ...fridge has been plugged in all week..anyway they plugged in to new 20 amp gfi rceptacles(home run nothing else on on circuit)and he's saying the gfi is tripping.
So you ran a 15A circuit and he's plugging into a 20A gfci.. what is going on here. And why is a fridge even GFCI'd? take the GFCI off and put in a normal 15A receptacle and the problem is magically solved.

Pass Go, collect remaining 20%.
 

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The fridge is not on a gfi..it was on a 15 amp duplex fed directly from panel...no problem...he had to move the fridge because the old cabinets were coming out so in the meantime he plugged it into a 20 amp gfi receptacle I had on the counter until the cabinet guys were done ..the 15 amp receptacle (home run) has held since I installed it over a week ago..he had to plug it in temporarily to one of the direct feed 20 amp kitchen counter receptacle for the demo guys to remove old cabinets.. And while it was plugged in to the 20 amp gfi it wouldn't hold...
 

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Canadian sparky said:
The fridge is not on a gfi..it was on a 15 amp duplex fed directly from panel...no problem...he had to move the fridge because the old cabinets were coming out so in the meantime he plugged it into a 20 amp gfi receptacle I had on the counter until the cabinet guys were done ..the 15 amp receptacle (home run) has held since I installed it over a week ago..he had to plug it in temporarily to one of the direct feed 20 amp kitchen counter receptacle for the demo guys to remove old cabinets.. And while it was plugged in to the 20 amp gfi it wouldn't hold...
I don't understand the problem then. Just explain it to the guy.
 

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Just tell him fridges aren't supposed to go on GFCI's.

Or just replace the $14 GFCI receptacle and stop wasting your invaluable time. Save that receptacle for the next house or install it somewhere else in his house.
 

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The only way to deal with a stubborn person is to be stubborn yourself. Tell him if he's not happy you will close the permit and send him to small claims court. Sometimes you can't wrap everything up pretty. He needs you worse than you need him.
 
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