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Hey, I have a pay scale question for anyone with information about the Boston area... What is the general pay rate for skilled union electricians, and is there a higher rate for electronics? We are going to be working offshore in the area and we feel that our company is selling us short on the pay scale there... They are giving us a bonus to compensate for the Union wages, but without know what their scale is we do not know what the comparable bonus should be... This goes for all our crafts onboard the vessel, mechanics, crane operators, and deck anchor hands... Any information available, would be greatly appreciated... TIA... Daryl...
 

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Thanks alot Yanici, I knew I was getting screwed on my side, and the other crafts as well... The little 40% bonus they are trying to pay us is still shorting me $1000 a week, at the base scale, not even including the benefits package... Anyone know about the operators??? Crane / Equipment Operators???
 

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Sorry for the lag response, SAT man had the net down, I stated that because this is our situation: Our Pipelaying barge is going to that area to do a job and we will be working with the union, we are taking on as many union hands as we can work, but the remaining specialty job positions will still be done by inhouse personnel (non-union hands). So in that context, our company is providing us a 40% bonus, but at the same time expect us to pay the Mass state tax of 5.3%, cutting it down to 34.7% roughly. Yes, the option to file and get all the state tax back is available, so with that it still could be 40%... As to your other questions, I am not licensed, but do have 20 years experience in electrical/electronics, see Welcome mat... So at that 40%, it would bring my scale up to $30.00hr which is still $8.57 below even the base scale info provided by Yanici, not mention to look at the total package of $58.42hr. This is what the companys sale on this was, this 40% would bring our pay up to approximately the same as the union hands we will be working with... But at the same time, when we asked for proof of this, they will NOT provide the detailed union pay scale for the crafts, which is for Local 25, marine division... They also said that the reason that the amount was lower than previous bonuses was because that Local 25s hands had not seen as many raises as we have had, more bull****... Now we can look at it as this opportunity does give us more money than we would be making in the Gulf of Mex. and be happy... But, to me, the company should not have tried to bull**** us in to thinking that we are going to be equal to their scale... Our company is on a schedule basis, so keeping the key employees is beneficial to the timeline, and that is why they try to smooth things over, instead of laying down the law, and pissing us off... And yes there are many other jobs available, as you all know, but I have been with this company for 6 years, and gotten tired quick of the shutdown routine... So back to the issue, with this info, what do you think is fair??? Provided that we do live in the south and have a lower cost of living. At the same time, I know of many hands that travel to the north just for the gravy as I was a previous IBEW hand myself... And on top of it all most of the union hands that do will be showing up to help will be from the south, because the northern hands already have positions... So looking at it for me losing $800 to $1000 a week is a little steep... Thoughts???
 

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NO Perdiem or allowances, because we live onboard the Barge offshore...
The point was that the company shouldn't have tried to make it sound like we would be equal to the Union wages... They should have laid down the law, take or leave it... And by doing that, 80% would have left, if they would have took that attitude, but they try to word it carefully to smooth it over us... IF the scale is correct, what is so hard about showing us the other Union hands scale... We are going to find out once we get there anyway, unless they can get all 30 to 40 hands to stay quite about it...

See the basis for this problem is that most electricians in the south only get $15 to $18, and with the 40% bonus bringing them up to $23 - $26 hr, we will have 4 inhouse ones at that pay. They will still be making considerably less than even the Deckhands, some with no experience at all... Even myself at $30hr bonus scale, will be equal to the deckhands pay, and not even close to the union electricians base scale of $38.57...

As is all these cases, if our hands would stick together and walk, at least we would be proving a point to this company, in standing up for what we think is right... But on the other side, all hands won't go through with it, so you can't make an impact if only 5 to 10 outta 30 or 40 will do it...
 

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At the end of the project you will have a job and the others from Boston will be on the bench.
As stated in the previous threads, these union hands will mostly be from the south anyway!
Are you or have you ever been in the union?
I have and understand the operations, as a journeyman electrician in the IBEW, previously...
I have worked that routine, of going from job to job in the construction side...
So I guess, that part of me, wants to see our rights protected, just as the union stands for their hands...
Just because, we have decided to stick with working with one company, doesn't make it ok for them to short change us, if anything they should be thankful for the loyalty and be a little more rewarding...
 
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