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"....My lights are flickering! My furnace won't run!"

HO's furnace quit working last night, and had a tinknocker out trying to fix it. He gave up when he found the voltages in the panel were L1-G: 128 , L2-G: 119.

So I get a call this morning and find the same voltages. Open Noodle!


Find this in the main panel:



Yes, the wire IS white. Or at least, was.
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there was enough to trim and re-land neutral ?.....or did we bring in the stretcher..:laughing:
Need more info.
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there was enough to trim and re-land neutral ?.....or did we bring in the stretcher..:laughing:

Yes.... bottom-fed panel and the noodle was run up across the top and down into the bar. Cut it off, re-stripped and re-terminated.

I also had a replacement screw on-hand.
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more proof why aluminum never made it
I still install aluminum... love the stuff. CHEEEEEEAP!
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nice...repairs like that are gravy....kudos to the tinknocker he knew something was up...
more proof why electricians who don't know how to properly terminate aluminum never made it
fify.
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I also had a replacement screw on-hand.
Nice...my wife doesn't approve of replacement screws.
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Nice...my wife doesn't approve of replacement screws.
That you know of .......:whistling2:
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Help, I need somebody
Help, not just anybody
Help, you know, I need someone
Heeeeeeeeelllllllp

When I was younger, so much younger than today
I just terminated AL any old way
But now these days are gone, I'm not so self assured
Now I find, I've changed my mind, and opened panel doors

Help me if you can, my noodles down
And I do appreciate you being 'round
Help me get this sine waves friggin'ground
Won't you, please, please help me?

:whistling2::thumbup::laughing:~CS~
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"....My lights are flickering! My furnace won't run!"

HO's furnace quit working last night, and had a tinknocker out trying to fix it. He gave up when he found the voltages in the panel were L1-G: 128 , L2-G: 119.
Isn't that what you'd expect the voltages to be more or less? I realize 128 is a little high, but how do you determine open neutral from that?
I also had a replacement screw on-hand.
People laugh at my box of assorted lug/breaker screws.....until they need one.
Isn't that what you'd expect the voltages to be more or less? I realize 128 is a little high, but how do you determine open neutral from that?

Little clues from the HO:

"Furnace cycles on and off, blower won't run....."

"Lights flicker, sometimes getting real bright....."

"The deep freeze burned up......"
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Isn't that what you'd expect the voltages to be more or less?
load /no load voltages are often key Sparky.....~CS~
People laugh at my box of assorted lug/breaker screws.....until they need one.
i have the same thing
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It IS Sunday. Did they flinch at your Sunday rate? Do you do 2 hr minimum, double rate, 1-1/2 rate, more for new calls than for regular customers?
Isn't that what you'd expect the voltages to be more or less? I realize 128 is a little high, but how do you determine open neutral from that?
Experience..below 120V is a dead give away, as is above 125V.
Experience..below 120V is a dead give away, as is above 125V.

LOL not around here.....

The regulation on our service here is very "loose" and it is not uncommon for the voltage to sag below 115-118 and when they do maintenance in the area and ground out the primary neutral our voltage here goes up to 128-130. Both legs within 1-2 volts of each other.

Measurements made with a Fluke 87 True RMS meter which confirms the same voltage readings on my Tripp-Lite UPS' on my a/v rack and computer.
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