[farlsincharge]

Had a lady phone in saying her breaker was no good. No power in the porch or outside. It had gone "bad" before but the last electrician changed the breaker and that made it better.
I told her it is rarely the breaker and we would come out to look.

This is what happens when you put #14's on a 20 amp federal. It really doesn't help that it was a MWBC and both legs were on one phase (Very common in a federal panel)
Circuit was powering two freezers and two block heaters

 

[farlsincharge]

O ya, I just got my first smart phone. So be prepared for more picture posts.

 

[wcord]

That is pretty old wiring, about 1970 or so. White loomex with screw type Marr connectors, or so SK still use antique connectors:laughing:
I assume the Fed 20 never tripped ( as they are designed to not trip )

 

[farlsincharge]

That is pretty old wiring, about 1970 or so. White loomex with screw type Marr connectors, or so SK still use antique connectors:laughing:
I assume the Fed 20 never tripped ( as they are designed to not trip )

The breaker was untripped. Wiring done sometime in the early 90's, with homeowner marrettes. Tape or set screws = handyhack.
I forgot to take a picture of the best part. Two 2104 LLe's boxes bolted together by their nailing brackets to form a "2 gang" complete with built in voltage divider. Genius

 

[erics37]

O ya, I just got my first smart phone. So be prepared for more picture posts.

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[Speedy Petey]

Modular home? The square heads give it away. Or is it just a Canada thing?

 

[Vintage Sounds]

Modular home? The square heads give it away. Or is it just a Canada thing?

Robertson screws are everywhere here, especially boxes and devices.

So farl what'd you end up doing? Pull new wire?

 

[Meadow]

Guess federal is similar to American FPE. For every square D breaker that doesn't trip 15 GEs don't and about 10,000 FPEs don't.:jester:


Sell a panel change. :thumbup:

 

[Gnome]

The breaker wouldn't much matter here. Even good working 15A breakera on a MWBC installed on the same phase will allow a load on neutral with twice the breaker rating. 35-40A on the neutral without tripping wouldn't be unheard of even in a Sq D panel. Two freezers and two block heaters sounds like a lot more than 30A.

 

[HARRY304E]

O ya, I just got my first smart phone. So be prepared for more picture posts.

Good stuff:laughing:

I'll bet that smelled good.

 

[MTW]

Aren't we looking at a classic case of a loose connection here? :001_huh:

 

[guest]

Aren't we looking at a classic case of a loose connection here? :001_huh:

I agree. Unless the neutral was fried pretty much all along its length from here to the panel this just looks like a loose connection flamed out.

 

[RobRoy]

O ya, I just got my first smart phone. So be prepared for more picture posts.

Welcome to 2014!:thumbup:

 

[rrolleston]

Robertson screws are everywhere here, especially boxes and devices.

So farl what'd you end up doing? Pull new wire?

I like the fact that they switched to the Square drive much easier with everything square drive.

 

[JPRO2]

The breaker was untripped. Wiring done sometime in the early 90's, with homeowner marrettes. Tape or set screws = handyhack.
I forgot to take a picture of the best part. Two 2104 LLe's boxes bolted together by their nailing brackets to form a "2 gang" complete with built in voltage divider. Genius

That really is a genius idea in a pinch I am tempted to do it just to get a reaction out of a co worker haha

 

[dmxtothemax]

Just put a bigger breaker in !
Should stop those nasty nuisance trips !