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Got an issue with some Halo led modules for 5"+6" recessed housings(RL560WH6830). The S.H. I work with has sent me two different batches of Lutron dimmers:(AYCL-153 + DVELV-300P). I purchased a third trough Amazon(Lutron C•L TGCL 153PH). My issue is all of the dimmers make the modules buzz. I put a standard switch in, no buzz. I had an issue years ago and found out that more load solved the problem(one of Leviton's first generation led can lights with a radio-controled control4 dimmer). Tried putting a 150 incandescent in with the led's; still they buzz... any ideas on what to try next? The house was just finished and the homeowner/builder is a GC I would like to keep happy, and he really wants led lighting with dimmers... not sure if this is important, but 4 can led per dimmer, about 40 watts of load for each section.
 

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Either replace the LED lights (which are the problem) or keep trying dimmers until you find one that doesn't make it buzz.. which could be quite a few.

I had this problem with a customer who supplied all his own LED bulbs which he bought from Costco.. they would buzz no matter what dimmer I put in, but not with a normal switch. Tried a few different dimmers out and they still buzzed. Customer decided (best plan) to just return the bulbs to Costco and use LED bulbs that don't buzz.
 

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Got an issue with some Halo led modules for 5"+6" recessed housings(RL560WH6830). The S.H. I work with has sent me two different batches of Lutron dimmers:(AYCL-153 + DVELV-300P). I purchased a third trough Amazon(Lutron C•L TGCL 153PH). My issue is all of the dimmers make the modules buzz. I put a standard switch in, no buzz. I had an issue years ago and found out that more load solved the problem(one of Leviton's first generation led can lights with a radio-controled control4 dimmer). Tried putting a 150 incandescent in with the led's; still they buzz... any ideas on what to try next? The house was just finished and the homeowner/builder is a GC I would like to keep happy, and he really wants led lighting with dimmers... not sure if this is important, but 4 can led per dimmer, about 40 watts of load for each section.
I went through this exact scenario with a different brand of led pots-the sh was heppful, but the manuf. kept denying the prob. Eventually I just returned all the trims and bought new ones from a different batch(same brand)and VOILÁ no more buzz.

Tldr-it's the leds, change em'.
 

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I even found a couple of Halo demo's my SH gave me almost a year ago, same #'s, different packaging. Still buzzing, although not nearly as loud. Salesman is trying to do right, sending three different brands to see which one works best. Still a little tee'd off at the lost time dinking around with this issue. The sales rep swears I'm the only one with this issue...
 

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I even found a couple of Halo demo's my SH gave me almost a year ago, same #'s, different packaging. Still buzzing, although not nearly as loud. Salesman is trying to do right, sending three different brands to see which one works best. Still a little tee'd off at the lost time dinking around with this issue. The sales rep swears I'm the only one with this issue...
they always do man....they always do
 

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I even found a couple of Halo demo's my SH gave me almost a year ago, same #'s, different packaging. Still buzzing, although not nearly as loud. Salesman is trying to do right, sending three different brands to see which one works best. Still a little tee'd off at the lost time dinking around with this issue. The sales rep swears I'm the only one with this issue...
Go get a sylvania rt-6 and see if it works-they look very similar. If there is no buzz-replace them all.
 

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I installed Halo LED modules with Cooper dimmers, no problem. Maybe it's a Cooper conspiracy :) .
 

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@99cents, do you have a catalog # for those cooper dimmers? Be a lot easier to swap out a few dimmers vs. house full of led's...
 

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Bet it won't work. I just had this problem.. couldn't get any maestro to make the buzzing go away. It was the LED's. Customer had to swap the LED's because they wanted 3way/4way dimming control and I was going to charge to replace dimmers.
Did you setup the dimmer mode correctly for LED or Incanscent? Also, do you have the companion dimmers on the way system?
 

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Have these led retros in my house with a Lutron Diva dimmer. The 600 watt version rated for incadescent, CFL, or LED with the little adjustment dial under where the wall plate goes. No humming no problems.
 

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Not sure what Salvatore means by 'setting up' dimmer; they are lutrons made for incandescent/cfl/led. There is a little dial next to toggle(under cover plate) tried it in every position still buzzing... other manufacturer's modules should be here tomorrow.
 

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Did you setup the dimmer mode correctly for LED or Incanscent? Also, do you have the companion dimmers on the way system?
I'm not familiar with setting up the Maestro CL's for LED or Incandescent. I've even read the instructions before! :laughing: With some LED's they just buzz at any dimming setting or full power. I always use companion (slave) maestros.. that's the whole point of maestros, dimming from other locations.

What is the setup part?
 

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Not sure what Salvatore means by 'setting up' dimmer; they are lutrons made for incandescent/cfl/led. There is a little dial next to toggle(under cover plate) tried it in every position still buzzing... other manufacturer's modules should be here tomorrow.
For the Lutron MACL series you need to set the dimmer for what type of bulb your using and or what is on the other end of the 3-way switch. Is it a companion dimmer or rockers switch. It specifically explains this it the instructions manual. , if you did install them and they still buzzed it's quite possible they were not set correctly.
 

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For the Lutron MACL series you need to set the dimmer for what type of bulb your using and or what is on the other end of the 3-way switch. Is it a companion dimmer or rockers switch. It specifically explains this it the instructions manual. , if you did install them and they still buzzed it's quite possible they were not set correctly.
I recall there being programming for the high and low trim and on and off fade and probably a couple other things. But I'll eat my screen if you can show me or tell me how to program the dimmer for the type of bulb. I swear that doesn't exist, hence why they sell maestros for resistive loads, maestros in low voltage magnetic, maestros in low voltage electronic and maestro CL's for CFL's and LED's.

Not to be a d1ck on this, but you're being very vague. They buzz because the LED's are cheap.
 

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I recall there being programming for the high and low trim and on and off fade and probably a couple other things. But I'll eat my screen if you can show me or tell me how to program the dimmer for the type of bulb. I swear that doesn't exist, hence why they sell maestros for resistive loads, maestros in low voltage magnetic, maestros in low voltage electronic and maestro CL's for CFL's and LED's.

Not to be a d1ck on this, but you're being very vague. They buzz because the LED's are cheap.
x2, I read the entire manual and only saw how to adjust the high and low dim levels.
 
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