Local 164 in the spotlight
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That's me!!:laughing::laughing: I think you'd do better with a name like Fireman. Whenever someone paints the union in a bad light..........along comes the Fireman to put out the fire!!!:laughing::laughing:
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You keep using the word trolleejack said:
YOU are the troll here just you.
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Yes you are right. Funny the 164 troll is still defending it, I think he is involved with it, that s the only reason someone in that local would not be pissed about it.Vic098 said:
They stole from the members.
Anyone who f*cks around with the dues money should have their hands cut off IMO. End of Story.
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Yeah, sounds like a real scandal. :laughing:
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These types exist in all walks of life and all types of businesses, the DC Teachers union had a woman that took a lot more, EC, charities you name it some one will try to scam it.
When I was just starting in the trade, a guy on our job was stealing copper everyday. He was caught and fired though the company threatened prosecution.
A very wise electrician I was working with told me, figure if you are going to steal sooner or later you are going to get caught. SO steal enough to make the jail time you are going to do worth it.
$350K in 2012 sure ain't enough to go to jail for especially if the judge demands restitution.
THese guys deserve more than 5 years, had an ex-employee got 12-20 for robbing a bank of $10,000.00. Tougher jail times I think might deter others
When I was just starting in the trade, a guy on our job was stealing copper everyday. He was caught and fired though the company threatened prosecution.
A very wise electrician I was working with told me, figure if you are going to steal sooner or later you are going to get caught. SO steal enough to make the jail time you are going to do worth it.
$350K in 2012 sure ain't enough to go to jail for especially if the judge demands restitution.
THese guys deserve more than 5 years, had an ex-employee got 12-20 for robbing a bank of $10,000.00. Tougher jail times I think might deter others
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That in it's self is no crime, if it was every local and contractor in America would be in jail.
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I don't really consider you one of the typical union mouth pieces around here. While you and I don't always agree many times I have seen you look at things with an open mind. You seem willing to admit that somethings do give the unions a black eye.
On the other hand there are some here that could not admit that if their life depended on it and would try to explain away any union action as being just and right.
Myself, I freely admit the good the unions do, what drives me nuts is the union supporters cannot freely admit that somethings the unions do are not good or helpful for anyone.
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eejack...so tell me are you saying what they did was ok?
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This guy took more money and gets less time
Prison sentences are hardly uniform.
http://nlpc.org/stories/2011/12/09/florida-local-ibew-benefits-manager-sentenced-800k-embezzlement
Prison sentences are hardly uniform.
http://nlpc.org/stories/2011/12/09/florida-local-ibew-benefits-manager-sentenced-800k-embezzlement
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There is a huge difference between the two cases. In 164's case, the two indicted were sworn Officers of the Union. A Union which has made agreements with Local 3 for support for Hurricane Sandy. Local 164 themselves have never been a problem in the past. As a matter of fact they have been more accepting of organizing shops into the union than many other locals.
The individual in the other case was an investment staffer who was not a member of the IBEW down there. He was employed by a company used to manage their benefits program.
I, as many, feel that it is a more heinous crime to the rank and file members if their Business Manager is found guilty of these accusations.
Remember though, it is not a crime to employ ones spouse, nor is it a crime to use their business for food services. That's why I believe there is way more to this than has been released to the press at this time. Because one can make the argument that there is nothing illegal about those actions...
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Just sounds like cronyism to me.
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