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I like you rollie!
Like the Laws of our Nations, be proud and give the IBEW Constitution as much access as possible.The IBEW was ordered to delete three offending clauses from its constitution and to amend four others to bring them in line with federal law. It reinstated Boswell with full rights, paid him damages, and compensated his attorneys. It was a total victory except for one detail. Both sides agreed not to reveal the terms of settlement. But everything was on the public record, except the financial figures. AUD, not bound by any settlement, publicized the facts, then reported by the Bureau of National Affairs. The settlement was finalized on March 12, 1981, but it took much longer --- six years! --- to dig out the money details.
I agree Rollie73, and so far Canadian law has agreed, for the most part.You know.....I've asked this question myself. Usually its posed to the higher echelons of our organization and have yet to be given a satisfactory answer.
There is no secret code, no hallowed handshake, no directions to the fountain of electrical knowledge....nothing. Why is it so hard to find?
The only reason I can think of is that IBEW considers it a contract between the union and its members.
Rollie73,Grand Commander........NEVER presume to say who I side with. NEVER presume to say what I stand for and what I will speak out against.
I have always and will continue to be an advocate for change for the better within this organization and believe that transparency is an absolute must within the locals.
I swore to uphold this constitution and I expect the same of other members.
Having said this.......I get the feeling that I speak for a few of the other members here on ET and more than a few of the IBEW members here when I say that now is a good time for you to stop fishing for support in your personal vendetta against certain members and officers of local 353.
This is NOT what ElectricianTalk is all about.:no: Keep your issues with your local....in your local.
Those that don't believe that there should be better laws to ensure that unions allow the right to dissent, the right to be heard, and the right to participate fail to realize that the current degree of autonomy has union officers denying the membership their entitlement to fairness in matters concerning both collective agreements and internal affairs.There is little debate among observers of contemporary industrial relations that unions can only fulfil their social and economic mission if they are democratic institutions.
The focus among labour lawyers and legislators, however, has been on the degree of intervention that the law should make into the internal affairs of trade unions.
Some prominent Canadian labour lawyers and academics have argued that a more elaborate code of democratic conduct must be legislated in order to ensure that the right to dissent, the right to be heard, and the right to participate are properly protected. This argument for a union members’ bill of rights in Canada is based not so much on any historic or contemporary pattern of entrenched abusive behaviour, as it is on the growing political and economic role of trade unions in modern society and the consequent public responsibilities that come with that role. Implicit in this view is the acceptance that the law can play a substantial role in ensuring membership control and participation by regulating the democratic behaviour of trade unions.
Others have maintained that the present level of legal supervision is sufficient to ensure that unions are fair and responsive to their members, although many of the powers presently possessed by the courts should be removed and placed with labour relations boards. This view is premised on the belief that unions, as essentially private organizations, should be permitted the greatest degree of autonomy possible that is consistent with ensuring that their membership is entitled to fairness in matters concerning both collective agreements and internal affairs.
Here's my problem with your crap here.As for you stating that I shouldn't presume what you think?
I would suggest that you stop presuming that I have a personal vendetta, when I uphold the constitution by shedding some light on those that violate the constitution.
Have faith in those that expose corruption!
Keeping things hidden and secret only gives the troublemakers the fuel they need.
Rollie73,
As you pointed out in your own post about LU 1852, corruption happens.
Did you lose faith in those that exposed that corruption.
I don't believe you've covered enough material to form an opinion yet.
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Go here if you want to discuss how to protect the IBEW:
http://www.electriciantalk.com/f26/ibew-corrupt-local-union-officers-how-do-we-deal-them-113161/#post2065410
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• Users shall treat each other with respect at all times on ElectricianTalk.com. Name calling, personal attacks, threats or other inappropriate behavior will not be allowed and may cause you account to be banned.
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So you are admitting that you are NOT Perry Speranza?I take offence to the name calling and false accusations directed towards me.
IBEW Constitution• Forum Posting Rules:
• Users shall treat each other with respect at all times on ElectricianTalk.com. Name calling, personal attacks, threats or other inappropriate behavior will not be allowed and may cause you account to be banned.
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Article 25 - MISCONDUCT, OFFENSES AND PENALTIES
Sec. 1. Any member may be penalized for committing any one or more of the following offenses:
(b) Having knowledge of the violation of any provision of this Constitution, or the bylaws or rules of a L.U., yet failing to file charges against the offender or to notify the proper officers of the L.U.
http://www.ibew769.com/library/constitution/article25.htm
No other IBEW member or officer will have knowledge, if the violations are not exposed.
You are pretending to be Perry Speranza, that is an attack on his good name! Period!You had no reason to protect Perry's good name because I never attacked his good name.
Why don't you just stop attacking me Borgi?
IBEW Constitution
Article 25 - MISCONDUCT, OFFENSES AND PENALTIES
Sec. 1. Any member may be penalized for committing any one or more of the following offenses:
(b) Having knowledge of the violation of any provision of this Constitution, or the bylaws or rules of a L.U., yet failing to file charges against the offender or to notify the proper officers of the L.U.
http://www.ibew769.com/library/constitution/article25.htm
No other IBEW member or officer will have knowledge, if the violations are not exposed.
I take offence to the name calling and false accusations directed towards me.
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