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You sure that short wall is ready? It looks like they need to grount some more!
 

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I'm really loving the M12 as well.


I see you are using your full size drill for driving screws. I'd definitely recommend the M12 impact for that purpose. Smaller, lighter, and made for driving screws (it doesn't "cam out" and strip the head like drills do).

While an impact can drive large screws thru hard wood with ease, by feathering the trigger you can drive small screws in plastic without stripping them.

I pretty much only use my 18V drill when I need to make a big hole. I use the M12 drill or impact for up to 3/4". 18V for the rest.
 

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Are you happy with the light output of that light?

Trying to justify to myself the extra $30 cost to get the M12 LED stick light...
 

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M18 fuel isnt really any more cumbersome than the M12 and it adds inches to your pepe.
 

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M18 fuel isnt really any more cumbersome than the M12 and it adds inches to your pepe.
It is larger and heavier. The M18 drill has about half the torque (650in/lbs) as the M12 impact (1,200in/lbs). And to top it off, the impact is better for driving screws because impacts don't cam out.

I'm not criticizing anyone's tools or working methods, just throwing out some suggestions.
 

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The LED flash light is beautiful and the extra life battery keeps it shining for hours. The LED uses less power, obviously. I had two of them and lost one. It happens!
 

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M18 fuel isnt really any more cumbersome than the M12 and it adds inches to your pepe.
M12 - 4 cells / 8 cells extended
M18 - 6 cells / 12 cells extended

According to the manufacturer Milw extended life batteries have a circuit that communicates with the tool to allow more draw/torque than standard packs.

By the numbers you can draw more power with a M12 extended battery and an "unlocked" fuel tool than some older M18's with the standard battery.

I have never tested the new M18's to see if the extended battery will unlock higher draws in them.

Please post any models you have noticed have the increased power/torque with extended batteries.

The advantage of the larger tools is better heat dissipation. As the tools and packs overheat performance and longevity suffer, so M18 may be better for continuous duty work while M12 extended can theoretically provide the same level of instantaneous power delivery provided both the tool and the pack have the overdraw circuit enabled.
 

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The newer Milw extended life batteries have a circuit that communicates with the tool to allow more draw/torque.

You can get more torque with a M12 extended battery and a fuel tool than some older M18's with the standard battery.

I have never tested the new M18's to see if the extended battery will unlock higher draws in them.

Please post any models you have noticed have the increased power/torque with extended batteries.
Do you have any official info about this? Is this something from Milwaukee or just something you noticed?

I've been wondering for a while if the XC batteries actually gave more power instead of just extended runtime. I've never heard that there is actually circuitry involved that does this.

That would also mean that an M12 tool is purposely reduced in power when using a normal battery, which is kinda crappy. When it it gives you torque specs, which battery is that for?
 

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just ordered the m12 stick light and magnet to go along with the rest of my m12 tools...

screwdriver
hackzall
right angle drill
multitool
flashlight
inspection camera
SDS
radio

also have the heated hoodie

thinking about picking up the impact driver and laser plumb bob
 

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The M12 PVC shear freaking rocks for service work...

If it's really cold or you are working with old brittle PVC it can be helpful to hit the pipe with a heat gun or torch to reduce the chance of shattering the pipe, it's strong enough to crushinate. I hope the gears hold up though, I've abused the heck out of mine and I think it may be slipping a little bit...
 

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Do you have any official info about this? Is this something from Milwaukee or just something you noticed?

I've been wondering for a while if the XC batteries actually gave more power instead of just extended runtime. I've never heard that there is actually circuitry involved that does this.

That would also mean that an M12 tool is purposely reduced in power when using a normal battery, which is kinda crappy. When it it gives you torque specs, which battery is that for?
I've read it in the past in company literature and also on some review sites. When I stumble on it again I will try to come back here and post it.

The company line I've heard is that at least on the products normally supplied/shipped with XC 4.0AH batteries in the kit with the charger that the advertised ratings are based on that XC 4.0AH battery included.

Smaller products like the screwdriver don't benefit. I only remember this technology specifically in reference to update the XC 4.0AH Redlithium with the hackzall and grease gun. The technology is fairly new and has not been implemented in all tools in the M12 line.
 
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