[robmac85]

I had an inspector tell me the other day that madison bars are no longer legal to use on gem boxes in existing walls. Only the OWC clips are able to be used now. I checked the code but I didnt see anything about that. I like to use OWC clips because they hold tighter but somtimes the madisons work better along side of a stud and they're cheaper ha. Anyone hear of this?

 

[Deep Cover]

I'd ask for proof.

 

[Chrisibew440]

I'm curious. What's a Madison bar and an OWC clip and a gem box?

 

[bkmichael65]

I'm curious. What's a Madison bar and an OWC clip and a gem box?

Madison bars are slang for cut in box support. Gem box is just an old work box

 

[Voltron]

Use them all the time for walls and cabinets and have never had any issues with inspectors in our area anyway...

 

[robmac85]

OWC clips are the things the you slide on the edge of the box and when you tighten the screw the clip pulls inward securing the box against the sheetrock.

 

[Chrisibew440]

OWC clips are the things the you slide on the edge of the box and when you tighten the screw the clip pulls inward securing the box against the sheetrock.

I know those as cut-in or tiger boxes. And a tiger box without the wings come with "battleships" a clip that you have to add to the box by sliding it between the drywall and the box and then folding in the two metal pieces into the interior of the box. These clips look like battleships.

 

[robmac85]

I know those as cut-in or tiger boxes. And a tiger box without the wings come with "battleships" a clip that you have to add to the box by sliding it between the drywall and the box and then folding in the two metal pieces into the interior of the box. These clips look like battleships.

It's funny how the trade names vary across the country.

 

[drspec]

I know those as cut-in or tiger boxes. And a tiger box without the wings come with "battleships" a clip that you have to add to the box by sliding it between the drywall and the box and then folding in the two metal pieces into the interior of the box. These clips look like battleships.

gem box, single cut in, gangable box

battleship straps, f clips/straps, jiffy clips/strap, Madison straps

 

[B4T]

These are Madison straps or clips...

 

[Chrisibew440]

These are Madison straps or clips...

Yep there's the battleships.

 

[Chrisibew440]

It's funny how the trade names vary across the country.

Yeah I dig on it.

 

[Jlarson]

Hit the dumb ass (a.k.a. inspector) in the head with a gem box.

 

[bigmiketino]

Hit the dumb ass (a.k.a. inspector) in the head with a gem box.

Thats what I would do...LOL

 

[brian john]

A better response is really, well can you show me in the NEC, I looked and can't find it.

Then when he ca't find it, hit him with a gem box and say "You dumb f*ck, how many electricians have you screwed with your arrogance, ignorance and stupidity.

 

[chicken steve]

Is this an issue of support listing...? ~CS~

 

[Southeast Power]

I had an inspector tell me the other day that madison bars are no longer legal to use on gem boxes in existing walls. Only the OWC clips are able to be used now. I checked the code but I didnt see anything about that. I like to use OWC clips because they hold tighter but somtimes the madisons work better along side of a stud and they're cheaper ha. Anyone hear of this?

I hate them but, have to admit, the really hold a cut-in box tight to the wall.
Some people call them "battle ships" I always called them Madison Clips.

 

[Southeast Power]

I had an inspector tell me the other day that madison bars are no longer legal to use on gem boxes in existing walls. Only the OWC clips are able to be used now. I checked the code but I didnt see anything about that. I like to use OWC clips because they hold tighter but somtimes the madisons work better along side of a stud and they're cheaper ha. Anyone hear of this?

When you get older and don't give a crap about what inspectors might be able to do to you, just say, that doesn't sound right to me, do you really want to die on that hill boy.

 

[Going_Commando]

How do those owc clips work? I hate mad straps, but didn't realize there were any other options. Anyone use these?

 

[drspec]

How do those owc clips work? I hate mad straps, but didn't realize there were any other options. Anyone use these?

theyre very difficult to use


first you snap them onto the side of the box
then you push the box into the wall
and then you turn the screw with a screwdriver or drill

practice man....youll get it :laughing: