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master and journeyman cards

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Someone tried to tell me that you can carry both a journeymans and a masters liscense (Michigan). Is there any truth to that? I thought that one superceeded the other.
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If you have a masters why would you want a journeyman's card you like paying extra cash to the state.
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If you have a masters card, you are no longer a JW hence, no JW card for you.

You are correct.

The only thing that I can think of that he may have been thinking is; if you obtain your contractors license and you have a masters card, you will still retain (as long as you pay the bill and do the updates) your masters card.
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I have a Virginia licence and the trade designation states Master electrician, and Journeyman electrician on the same card.
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You can carry both in michigan but then your jmans will expire and then you will just have a masters. When that happens you do not need to renew your journerymans
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I carry journeyman, master, and contractor licenses in Colorado. The journeyman costs me $11.00 a year to carry - I probably loose more change than that in a year. Just something I choose to do. Entirely legal. I can drop it any time and pick it up again if I choose.
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I'll call my buddy tomorrow. He recieved his masters last year. He currently does not list an active JW but he is listed as having a masters. Obviously, he could have simply not renewed it but I will check to see what he knows about it. From my understanding, the license if progressive and not complementary but I could be wrong.
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I think what you may run into if you are in the union is that some locals or even some jurisdictions require a jw card rather than a masters card. the thinking from what i've been told is that an electrical engineer with the right number of years is able to take his masters test with out even one day of on the job training in the construction side of the job. so even though hey maybe able to tell you how something may work he may not be able to hook it up.
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I think I have heard of some jurisdictions that require a journeyman's card for actually working with your tools, and a masters for pulling permits. So, if you planned on still working in the field, you would need both.

I heard it from someone on one of these forums, I think.
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I have a Virginia licence and the trade designation states Master electrician, and Journeyman electrician on the same card.

I didn't think VA had a state license. When did that start?
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my buddy had a vasectomy Friday so was somewhat unavailable. I'll keep trying to get some info from him.
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