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How do you deal with a lead man who:

Is never wrong. (Because that's not my problem dude)

Badgers his own men hourly.

Has no daily plan except chaos, (because that's just the way it is dude)

Hoots and hollers hourly day in day out.

everything takes an hour or less even the 3000a gear.

Puts others down to make himself look better.

Acts like his word is law on site.

Him and I bang heads usually 7 am sharp once a day 5 days a week.

He in his 50's
I'm a little younger

I never seen/worked with anyone quite like this. Have you?
 

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How do you deal with a lead man who:

Is never wrong. (Because that's not my problem dude)

Badgers his own men hourly.

Has no daily plan except chaos, (because that's just the way it is dude)

Hoots and hollers hourly day in day out.

everything takes an hour or less even the 3000a gear.

Puts others down to make himself look better.

Acts like his word is law on site.

Him and I bang heads usually 7 am sharp once a day 5 days a week.

He in his 50's
I'm a little younger

I never seen/worked with anyone quite like this. Have you?
I had a JW like that once. He was about 5' tall. After I'd had enough, I told him if he ever talked to me like that again, I was going to beat his azz. He was just fine after that. Eventually, he got E boarded and wasn't allowed to have apprentices.
 

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I had a JW like that once. He was about 5' tall. After I'd had enough, I told him if he ever talked to me like that again, I was going to beat his azz. He was just fine after that. Eventually, he got E boarded and wasn't allowed to have apprentices.
Did he get sent to the Executive board because of his treatment towards apprentices directly ?
 

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The best thing you can learn from this guy, is what not to do.
In my opinion a good foreman...
A) leads by example
B) will not ask his crew to do a task he will not do
C) as best as he can sets work up so the crew can just roll and be as fluid as possible. This can be more difficult than most believe. Due to other trades, materials, etc.
D) is honest in expectations, and where more attention must be paid.
I.e. good communication. This is not always easy.
There's a ton more those things just come to mind as a few items which I try to live by
 

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The best thing you can learn from this guy, is what not to do.
In my opinion a good foreman...
A) leads by example
B) will not ask his crew to do a task he will not do
C) as best as he can sets work up so the crew can just roll and be as fluid as possible. This can be more difficult than most believe. Due to other trades, materials, etc.
D) is honest in expectations, and where more attention must be paid.
I.e. good communication. This is not always easy.
There's a ton more those things just come to mind as a few items which I try to live by
This guys has apprentices doing hot work, (fixtures etc) among other things.
 

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How do you deal with a lead man who:

Is never wrong. (Because that's not my problem dude)

Badgers his own men hourly.

Has no daily plan except chaos, (because that's just the way it is dude)

Hoots and hollers hourly day in day out.

everything takes an hour or less even the 3000a gear.

Puts others down to make himself look better.

Acts like his word is law on site.

Him and I bang heads usually 7 am sharp once a day 5 days a week.

He in his 50's
I'm a little younger

I never seen/worked with anyone quite like this. Have you?
I'm not in my 50's.
I didn't tell you to come here and complain about me.
Get back to work.

:jester::jester:
 

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You can't love everyone you'll have to work with in your career. We've all worked under assholes before, fact is he's the lead guy and you're not. Usually foremen get there by popular demand or because they can bring jobs in on time within budget. By the sound of your posts I'd say you don't want to work under anybody and there's nothing wrong that, so maybe being a company guy isn't for you
 

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How do you deal with a lead man who:

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I never seen/worked with anyone quite like this. Have you?
You bury him with perfection.

Seriously, you do a perfect job. It might take all day to level that pipe, but gosh golly, make it perfect.

( he will either get the hint and leave you alone, or fire you - either way he will leave you alone. )
 
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