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I always do very neat work and take alot of pride in my work. I'm not the fastest but im not the slowest. Theres a new apprentice at the shop who thinks hes better than me because he's faster. He tried to tell me what to do and act like my boss at first hahaha. And he had the balls to ask why a circuit I ran took longer than him...:censored:
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I can't even look at my very neat work and take pride in it because **** like that is ran looping through my ****. Really makes my job look like ****, and I hope I don't catch any heat for it! And at first the fast guys seem better to the bosses:censored:
 

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Cletis said:
how long would it take you to do a 100 amp 15 circuit external panel changeout ?
Haley's Comet would fly by 6 times during the course of it.

Kidding.

Yeah, fast = slow. Somebody screams through their work at 800 mph, then others must rip it down and redo it.
 

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in a world of speed. mistakes happen if someone else is faster who cares. speed dont make an electritian knowledge and skill speed will come
Speed Does Matter. Like Size Matters. Here is an example. If he did the above task I would consider him safe if he did between 1.5-3.5 hrs but after that it doesn't matter how long it takes him ...FIRED!!!!

I'd rather pay a little more for top quality neat work but there is a point. I had to fire a guy because he took 7.5hrs to change out a 100 amp panel which I could easily have done to perfection in 2-3hrs
 

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I wouldn't change out a 100 amp with 15 circuits, I would sell a 200 amp panel upgrade. Depending on location of meter pan about half a day...neat of course. Speed don't interest me
I doubt you could sell it over 50% of the time unless your related to zig zigler. Too many people just won't bite. How long does it take you to do a default 100-200 amp service upgrade ?? Job time
 

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Obviously I understand things must be done in reasonable time. I've never really had any problems with jobs taking too long. At the end of the day I still get more done than this new idiot because I don't waste time going out for cigarettes every hour and staring at my phone. Cigarettes and phone stay in the truck until lunch in my book. No matter what I could never walk away from work like the picture in OP
 

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Speed Does Matter. Like Size Matters. Here is an example. If he did the above task I would consider him safe if he did between 1.5-3.5 hrs but after that it doesn't matter how long it takes him ...FIRED!!!!

I'd rather pay a little more for top quality neat work but there is a point. I had to fire a guy because he took 7.5hrs to change out a 100 amp panel which I could easily have done to perfection in 2-3hrs
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This coming from the king of neat!!
 

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You were without a doubt a better electrician before starting this thread. Because now you've got people telling you fast is good and it's got you thinking. I'd take an even paced mindful apprentice over a balls to the wall go getter any day. Forget what you hear, you have to learn how to do things properly before you can learn how to improve on them and cut down on the time
 

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tell him all he needs is a piece of wire. I don't understand what the switch is for. does that make it safer ? :laughing:
 

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I used to work with a "speed" guy. He was always, "I'm faster at this or that" or " you guys are milking it." It was more than once, someone had to go back and fix or redo something that was slapped together.

Wow, you hung that ceiling fan in 20 minutes...great. Today I had to go back and tighten up all the blades that were flopping in the breeze and making the fan wobble.

Continue to take pride in your work and learn to work harder above the shoulders, and smarter below them.
 

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It's too bad that alot of this trade has lost the workmanship and pride in work that was evident in years past... I can look in some panels from the 60's, and see the original wiring all laced in place and terminated neatly, or conduits that every bend matches, etc.. Then see where some a$$ hat went in and made a change, took no pride in it, didn't label anything, and no two wires are terminated the same...

It seems everyone is worried about hurrying up, getting in, getting the job done and moving to the next one... I understand that there is a line, as every job should be somewhat profitable, but when you forget to tighten connectors, don't strap conduit, can't take the time to clean out your mess you made in a panel, etc that shows a lack of pride..
 
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