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But why would they make the battery bigger and heavier for hype?

Maybe it has something to do with the heat of the battery when stressed. Something to compete with the higher voltage Dewalt batteries that run cool at high output?
Dunno. The technical race with manufacturers for bigger, better, faster is confusing. All I want to do is drill holes.
 

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That thing must blast a lot of light. I have a 1900 lumen Bosch flood that kicks a$$. I don’t even bother with any other light, I just pull out the big one. It does use up battery life, though.
I've had it for less than a week and used it once last Friday night at a demo job to put in construction heaters... it does kick a$$. Problem is on high it can kill a 9.0 battery in 2 hours. And all I have are 2.0... time to buy some more tool kits I guess!

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I am curious about this "High Output" ... I guess batteries are not like AC utility power, it's not just a function of the voltage, some 18V batteries can supply more power than others. (Is that what cold cranking amps is about? I forget...)

If so maybe the high power don't give you more no load RPMs but do give you more torque under load.
 

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I read somewhere that the high demand batteries are using larger lithium cells in the battery. That would explain the larger size. They are supposed to run cooler. The packaging material says the HD battery provides the equivalent of 15 amps AC. It would make sense that using a HD battery in less demanding tool would provide an increase in torque, theoretically anyway.
 

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You should be able to get an amp hour rating on a battery. That's how you know how much juice/ run time there is.


12V * 20Ah = 240Wh
Run a 50W load @ 12V and it's going to run 240/50=4.8 hours run time assuming the battery operates down to zero percent.


If nothing else the Ah rating gives you something to compare other batteries to.
 

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I read somewhere that the high demand batteries are using larger lithium cells in the battery. That would explain the larger size. They are supposed to run cooler. The packaging material says the HD battery provides the equivalent of 15 amps AC. It would make sense that using a HD battery in less demanding tool would provide an increase in torque, theoretically anyway.
That sounds like the battery might hold up better over time, too.

As for the power ...

15A * 120VAC = 1800VA
1800VA / 18V = 100A

100A?
 

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I read somewhere that the high demand batteries are using larger lithium cells in the battery. That would explain the larger size. They are supposed to run cooler. The packaging material says the HD battery provides the equivalent of 15 amps AC. It would make sense that using a HD battery in less demanding tool would provide an increase in torque, theoretically anyway.
Bosch has ant-kickback. If the bit jams, the drill dies. It’s a great feature.
 

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I read somewhere that the high demand batteries are using larger lithium cells in the battery. That would explain the larger size. They are supposed to run cooler. The packaging material says the HD battery provides the equivalent of 15 amps AC. It would make sense that using a HD battery in less demanding tool would provide an increase in torque, theoretically anyway.
That sounds like the battery might hold up better over time, too.

As for the power ...

15A * 120VAC = 1800VA
1800VA / 18V = 100A

100A?
Sounds crazy doesn’t it...one of the tool review websites interviewed someone from Milwaukee awhile back. Paul somebody if I remember correctly. That’s exactly what he said 1800 watts, effectively 100A in the battery pack!
 

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I am curious about this "High Output" ... I guess batteries are not like AC utility power, it's not just a function of the voltage, some 18V batteries can supply more power than others. (Is that what cold cranking amps is about? I forget...)

If so maybe the high power don't give you more no load RPMs but do give you more torque under load.
That's the way I believe.
 

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I think the Super Hawg has a clutch too.
The problem with those clutches is that if you let up because you think it will bind, the clutch disengagement will delay. Better to hold it firm at all costs.

Not a fan of electronic clutches on drills. I think they make the tool lighter and more compact, but they just don't work as well as a mechanical clutch.

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Necro thread...


Scored a slightly used, looks new to me, Veto Tech Pac for $160.



The guys was doing fire caulking and knew the bag was too nice for that.



It replaced my 7 year old CLC back pack and now I'm trying to catch up to Mech with a bag for every task.



Also pictured is the $35 Tech-LC I got from Veto on the trade school discount.
 

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Necro thread...


Scored a slightly used, looks new to me, Veto Tech Pac for $160.



The guys was doing fire caulking and knew the bag was too nice for that.



It replaced my 7 year old CLC back pack and now I'm trying to catch up to Mech with a bag for every task.



Also pictured is the $35 Tech-LC I got from Veto on the trade school discount.


Awesome!

Best of luck with it.

Organization is two fold, makes you more productive and lessens stress!
 
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