I have not used a shared neutral in years, most specs prohibit it
2014 NEC said:... "The branch circuits serving emergency lighting and power circuits shall not be part of a multiwire branch circuit.
What do you think of this?2014 NEC said:... Where an emergency system is installed, emergency illumination shall be provided in the area of the disconnecting means required by 225.31 and 230.70 as applicable, where the disconnecting means are installed indoors.
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Same here.I have not used a shared neutral in years, most specs prohibit it
Then you better make sure the building service and feeders don't contain a shared neutral either.For any A/V or sound rack circuits, my specs prohibit MWBC's as well.
Copper industry wins again.Then you better make sure the building service and feeders don't contain a shared neutral either.![]()
It appears they finally outlawed shared neutrals for emergency circuits in the 2014 NEC. 700.19 states
But you are nuts and think that changes how things work.For any A/V or sound rack circuits, my specs prohibit MWBC's as well.
The first quote will sell a lot more white insulated conductors. The second quote makes sense.It appears they finally outlawed shared neutrals for emergency circuits in the 2014 NEC. 700.19 states
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It also appears they are slowly trying to require some type of emergency lighting in panels rooms, at least for the main disconnecting means. They added to 700.16
What do you think of this?
I am nuts and I don't give a s**t what YOU think, I KNOW it makes a difference in how things work on certain loads.But you are nuts and think that changes how things work.
..were gonna troll along and follow up on this.Then you better make sure the building service and feeders don't contain a shared neutral either.![]()
I don't know what effect MWBC's would have in EM circuits, but someone somewhere found an issue with it.It appears they finally outlawed shared neutrals for emergency circuits in the 2014 NEC. 700.19 states
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It also appears they are slowly trying to require some type of emergency lighting in panels rooms, at least for the main disconnecting means. They added to 700.16
What do you think of this?
And with some A/V and professional dimming gear, manufacturer's instructions do too.I have not used a shared neutral in years, most specs prohibit it
Same here.
Now Porky and PD, are you gonna man up and call brother, 360max, Bbsound and Awg-Dawg nuts too?FWIW, they were prohibited in patient bed locations in the last code cycle.
That is fine, stay wrong.:thumbup:I am nuts and I don't give a s**t what YOU think, I KNOW it makes a difference in how things work on certain loads.
I will call anyone nuts that claims moving the point that a neutral becomes common up stream changes how electricity behaves. (This assumes proper installation, no open connections etc)And I knew you and your boyfriend:
..were gonna troll along and follow up on this.
Hook, line and sinker dudes. :whistling2::laughing:
Besides, it appears that I am not the only one who feels that way:
I don't know what effect MWBC's would have in EM circuits, but someone somewhere found an issue with it.
And with some A/V and professional dimming gear, manufacturer's instructions do too.
Now Porky and PD, are you gonna man up and call brother, 360max, Bbsound and Awg-Dawg nuts too?:laughing:
Oh really? So the resistance, inductance, capacitance and impedance of say a 250mcm feeder, the bus bar and a #12 conductor are all the same? If you really believe that then you have some serious gaps in your understanding of the physics of electricity and Ohm's Law.That is fine, stay wrong.:thumbup:
There is nothing in the electrical panel that changes physics .....
Where are you working that MWBC's are prohibited?? I thought you were a union clown? What kind of commercial jobs do you do that don't take advantage of typical 3-phase wiring??I have not used a shared neutral in years, most specs prohibit it
Full boats and no handle ties are how I roll in our plants. Stuff works greatHackWork said:Where are you working that MWBC's are prohibited?? I thought you were a union clown? What kind of commercial jobs do you do that don't take advantage of typical 3-phase wiring?? If you run a pipe and 3 circuits, you run 3 neutrals in there?You only use 2-wire MC?? You don't take advance of 3 or 4-wire when you need multiple circuits ran to the same place?? :blink: