[MHElectric]

I have a decent little sheetrock removal job next week, and Im doing the patching myself. I want to try something new here, normally I use the spec grade mud & paper tape, but time is of the essecence on this job, and I want to try and squeeze 2 coats in here before I vanish.

Anybody use the high-dollar 20 min dry mud & the ultra thin fiber tape? They always struck me as what the DIY guys would buy, but the big box stores advertise how much it speeds up the patching process and how its great for quick remodel projects. I need something quick & fast but I don't want it took look like a cheapo repair cause I used a DIY product.

Thoughts?

 

[Mshow1323]

That stuff hardens in about 20-30 mins, it works fine. Pop on too thin coats, a quick sand, and let the painter touch it up. The best part is it won't freeze up in the van, assuming we're talking about the powder.

 

[MHElectric]

That stuff hardens in about 20-30 mins, it works fine. Pop on too thin coats, a quick sand, and let the painter touch it up. The best part is it won't freeze up in the van, assuming we're talking about the powder.

Actually I was talking about the stuff in the bucket. Same thing probably. Im not too worried about it freezing out here, but good looking out. Powder might be a better idea anyways.

Have you had the chance to use the fiber-tape any? It says its great for repairs cause its thinner than paper. I just don't want to find out it cracks a few months down the road.

 

[A Little Short]

That stuff hardens in about 20-30 mins, it works fine. Pop on too thin coats, a quick sand, and let the painter touch it up. The best part is it won't freeze up in the van, assuming we're talking about the powder.

Yep, you need to know how much to mix up and be quick about putting it on.

It looks as good as the slow dry stuff if you do it right.

 

[Mshow1323]

Actually I was talking about the stuff in the bucket. Same thing probably. Im not too worried about it freezing out here, but good looking out. Powder might be a better idea anyways.

Have you had the chance to use the fiber-tape any? It says its great for repairs cause its thinner than paper. I just don't want to find out it cracks a few months down the road.

All I use is the fiber mesh, it's kind of fool proof. Because it's meshed it grabs the mud much easier, so it actually takes less. Just be sure to use a ziplock, it tends to dry out if you don't use it fairly quickly.

 

[erics37]

I'm the worst sheetrock patcher ever. I redid the drain for my washing machine in the garage a few weeks ago and the piece of sheetrock I stuck back in there looked great until I taped and mudded it. Now it looks like Jackson Pollock repaired my wall.

 

[sparkyforlife]

Actually I was talking about the stuff in the bucket. Same thing probably. Im not too worried about it freezing out here, but good looking out. Powder might be a better idea anyways.

Have you had the chance to use the fiber-tape any? It says its great for repairs cause its thinner than paper. I just don't want to find out it cracks a few months down the road.

I have patched hundreds of holes in my career and I use "hot" mud all the time it's Sheetrock brand Easy sand 20, sets in about 20 minutes depending on how much water you used.

No paper tape or fiber tape either on small access holes and never had a call back. My patches come out perfect with barely any sanding at all.

Tape is only needed on large repairs where you have seams. If you drill out round access holes no tape is needed.

They don't make premixed fast setting jc you have to mix it yourself.

 

[chicken steve]

a few methods i've been taught>

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much depends on if it's actually d-wall, or plaster on lath
~CS~

 

[Southeast Power]

Steve,
We uh, kinda need a look at the finished product. :whistling2:

I keep furing strips and even paint stirrers for the patch you made of the bottom,
I think the one above it is for a front side surface patch.

 

[chicken steve]

Yeah i know Jrannis, that's the prep, we'll often use this to finish>

dries quick, shrinks minimally

~CS~

 

[eejack]

I use the powder mixes all the time - usually sheetrock easy sand 20 or 45 minute. They also make a 5 minute. I only use paper tape, it is thinner ( and cheaper ) than any of the mesh tapes.

Now, if you use mesh tape you have to use a powder mix, officially called setting type joint compound (some folks will call it hot mud). It works by chemically setting instead of drying like premixed joint compound.

Anywho, for small patches I mix in a clean paper coffee cup with cool water - hot water accelerates things. If I am trying to get two or three coats up in a couple of hours I wait for the mud to set ( 20 minutes usually ) then dry it with a blow dryer and hit it with another coat.

 

[CraigV]

eejack's got the right info on hot mud.

Use paper tape for the thinnest surface. I wet the tape and 'squeegee' the excess water off between two fingers, wet the knife (just dip it in the same water to wet the tape), and bed the tape in as thin a coat as possible. Then skim over it to cover, let it set. Many times this is all that's needed, but a second skim to cover any low spots can be done within the hour, or less, depending on the mud, temp, and thickness.

Even though hot mud sets fast, it still dries in about the same time as the bucket mud. It can't be sponge-sanded, and is slightly harder to sand.

 

[dronai]

I usually use 20 min powder from the bag. 5 min if there's not too many holes. I use mesh tape for patching. Just have to feather out the mud to remove the bump. 1x3 wood for the backing.

 

[CraigV]

The best tips I ever got were wetting the tape, and getting the mud mix thinner than what comes out of the bucket. Even using bucket premix, if you thin it the job comes out way better.

 

[papaotis]

even bucket mud 'ready to use' should be mixed. it makes it smoother and usually eliminates air pockets. never had problem using regular mud on mesh tape but it does shrink more, might take an extra coat

 

[macmikeman]

This thread reads easier if you play marachi music in the background.

 

[markore]

All I use is the fiber mesh, it's kind of fool proof. Because it's meshed it grabs the mud much easier, so it actually takes less. Just be sure to use a ziplock, it tends to dry out if you don't use it fairly quickly.

Thanks for that tip. While searching for more info, I found this article which has a lot of tips on mixing mud in a ziplock and spot patching, and also shows how to make your own banjo out of an old pail.

http://books.google.com/books?id=RbTVx1AjfhQC&pg=PA109&lpg=PA109&dq=ziplock+bag+drywall+tape&source=bl&ots=zytio_l-6O&sig=_QUj-kjV358kQiaeNVJxXGumoIk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iz_SUuSFLuHmsATPvoDoCw&ved=0CFEQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=ziplock%20bag%20drywall%20tape&f=false

 

[markore]

This thread reads easier if you play marachi music in the background.

Hardcore Mac. :whistling2:

 

[papaotis]

a banjo is lot of work and mess for patching

 

[Mshow1323]

Thanks for that tip. While searching for more info, I found this article which also shows how to make your own banjo out of an old pail.

I do hope you realize that I was talking about the mesh tape...:2guns: