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A cord cannot pass through a wall or ceiling. I'm too lazy to find the rule.
lol Yeah I hate the looks of it, but I can't really see why it's so bad.I'd do it at my place no problem
The video states that, as long as the power cord is not altered in any way, as the entire unit is U/L listed, as a complete unit.Mike Holt did a recent 19 minute video with a different view-point on 400.8
NEC 2014 - Equipment for General Use Article 400 - Flexible Cords and Flexible Cables
http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=157262
Shít man! That's exactly what I'm talking about. At first inclination, it would seem like code doesn't allow it.. but it makes absolutely no sense for it to not be allowed.Mike Holt did a recent 19 minute video with a different view-point on 400.8
NEC 2014 - Equipment for General Use Article 400 - Flexible Cords and Flexible Cables
http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=157262
I see so much of it with dropped ceilings. If the power cord is not altered and can be removed without tools, just by lifting out the panel, I don't see the problem.Shít man! That's exactly what I'm talking about. At first inclination, it would seem like code doesn't allow it.. but it makes absolutely no sense for it to not be allowed.
I'm going to dig into this deeper.. because I want to tell people it's not allowed, but I'm too scared to back up my code references and reasoning why, when it seems reasonable to do it.
Thanks for the video!
Not all NFPA employees or AHJs agree with his view on this subject.Mike Holt did a recent 19 minute video with a different view-point on 400.8
NEC 2014 - Equipment for General Use Article 400 - Flexible Cords and Flexible Cables
http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=157262
There's not a fire Marshall in america that would allow a cord to pass through a drop ceiling.I see so much of it with dropped ceilings. If the power cord is not altered and can be removed without tools, just by lifting out the panel, I don't see the problem.![]()
Here in Canada, we can get cord ended Pac Poles. I don't believe they are NEC approved.There's not a fire Marshall in america that would allow a cord to pass through a drop ceiling.
Rule 4-012 in the 2012 book.And for those in the Land of Eh....:thumbsup:
Canadian Electrical Code CEC®
4-010 (3)(a)(ii)
Flexible cord shall not be used run through holes in walls, ceilings or floors.
What if you just put it in Smurf-tube (flexible conduit)???Any cable run in walls has to be marked with an FT number to show that it meets flame spread requirements.Like many of those monster video and speaker cables that aren't legal for roughing in the walls as most are not FT rated.Cabtire is not FT rated is it?I am always asked by customers to pull in monster cables in their new house when I'm doing the rough wire.If there is no flame test stamped on it then it is against code to install it in the walls.
Not really. They're saying that if it's an assembly...what he calls a "power supply cord" in the video, then it falls under UL 718(I think is the standard), but Article 400 only covers UL 62 listed cords. So it doesn't supersede...it just was never within the scope of 400 anyway.The video states that, as long as the power cord is not altered in any way, as the entire unit is U/L listed, as a complete unit.
They claim the U/L listing, supersedes Article 400.8.![]()
What like 2" smurf? If you have to cut the caps off to pull the wire what would be the purpose of the quick ext cord. :blink:What if you just put it in Smurf-tube (flexible conduit)???