[jane89]

Hi there

I currently work for an Electrical Company as a health and safety coordinator. One part of my responsibilities here is to do some of the qa/qc. So right now they have me doing inspections, and writing out the start-up forms.

So here is my concern/question:
I have only been working with the company for a year and only been working in a construction site for a year as well. I have never done any kind of electrical work or training, I don't know code or anything like that and I have never done any kind of electrical inspections before this job.

I thought you would have to be a journeyman/master electrician to do QA/QC?

I have requested some training so I know what I am doing - never happened, I am just 'expected' to know what to look for.

What is the job responsibilities of a qa/qc? for electrical and the average salary - right now I am paid less than an apprentice.

What are the requirements to be a QA/QC - i just honestly feel like I am not qualified due to lack of experience and that I am being cheated....

Hopefully someone can help me out

 

[wildleg]

clearly they aren't giving you training because they aren't really interested in safety, they are interested in the appearance of safety. (either that or someone is putting you in a position you will fail at so that they can fire you)

good luck Cletis

 

[Ultrafault]

I think you are just the bear bait. When it comes down to jail time due to gross negligence you can do the time for them.

 

[ponyboy]

Fall guy

 

[Navyguy]

Although the linked document is still in DRAFT, (and is from Ontario), there is some wording on page 23 which talks about ensuring work is carried out in accordance applicable laws.

The term "quality" has been mainly attached to the Electrical Contractor, which is a business issue and not necessarily an electrical safety issue.

I can do "poor quality" work and still be code compliant. I might ever argue that I can do "good quality" work and not be compliant... that might be a stretch. A simple example might be hanging conduit... I can hang it all sideways and uneven, but as long it is strapped and not overfilled... the opposite... hang it perfectly straight, beautiful bends, but if I overfill I am not complaint... but it looks good.

I believe in the trade we tend to connect the word quality with craftsmanship vs compliance.

Cheers

John Kuehnl-Cadwell
Master Electrician

http://www.datawisesolutions.ca/~na...rical_Contractors_and_Master_Electricians.pdf

 

[RandyM]

In the NEC there is a section on neat & workman like. How neat is up to the Inspector!

 

[Rollie73]

There is no way in hell I would ever offer a person with zero electrical qualifications a position as a qa/qc inspector.

How could someone who wouldn't know, for example....an explosion proof eys from a straight line pull through condulet body......ever inspect and ensure a correct installation of any electrical system???

You are 100% right in saying that you are not qualified to do the job and I commend you for knowing it and saying so.

IMHO, qa/qc is a position for the older personnel on the job who has done his time and now deserves the lighter, less physically demanding jobs.



Keep in mind though.......I hate most, if not all, safety co-ordinators on the jobsite. Most of them have never worked in a trade and only know what they learn in a classroom.
It really irks me that they come to the job site and tell those of us with years and years of experience and years of going home safely how to do our job.



Rant Over

 

[Navyguy]

In the NEC there is a section on neat & workman like. How neat is up to the Inspector!

Yes, we have that in the CEC also Rule 2-108 Quality of Work.

2-108 Quality of work​

The mechanical arrangement and execution of the work in connection with any electrical installation shall be​

acceptable.

Cheers

John