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Someone just called and a job I bid a while ago was resurrected but they need a price ASAP, tonight. Apparently they waited until the feeders shorted or something. I know my material cost but the time frame or labor is what I want to check on.
Six runs of 2 1/2 EMT run across 5 stores thru sheetrock ceilings and drop ceilings. Bar joist are about 15 feet above the floor. Ladders and no man lifts. The runs are between 275 feet and 375 feet for a total of 2000 feet. It has been a long time since I did something like this so I am a bit nervous. 3/0 copper will be used. I have to replace the existing because the existing is over 50 years old and has sewer water coming out the fittings in the basement. This is why we are going thru the ceiling. I ball parked 320 man-hours does this sound right to anybody?
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So are you going to use factory bends or are you going to bend it? I'd be using factory bends. I'd rather make the money for the labor for bending than give it to the factory, but there will be less scrap and less temptation to get artistic, less chance of things going south.

Is this mostly straight shots across the back of the stores, just under the bar joists? If so that part is pretty easy to estimate.

Depending on the construction of the demising walls between tenants, the penetrations could be easy if it's a single block, hard if it's some bunker type construction.

I would see the big unknown the last 50' of each run.

Don't forget to check current pricing on your JB's, LB's, mogul LB's, and C condulet bodies carefully.

Put an expiration date on the quote, put an escalation clause in there, etc. etc. cover every eventuality just in case.
What I have done in the past is run the EMT in the bar joist rather than under. I could push 100 feet from one location and strap it down when done. What got me now concerned is what people cautioned about, duct work and other obstructions. I usually keep log books of the jobs I do for future reference and what problems arise and how long major tasks actually took but I did a major office cleaning and things got thrown out. Like the old Atlite trims that sat on the shelf for 30 years until I thru them out. Four months later an electrician friend of mine needed two.
 

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Everyone I deal with says they need prices immediately and the are going to move on it ASAP. Then the jobs sits for 3 months and then they call you and you have to reprice.
That is exactly what is happening here. The sewer water leaking out of the fittings has been going on for years. I looked at this last fall. The original electrical contractor used EMT in the sand below the slab so it seems after 50 years, everything rotted out. These things don't fix themselves.
 

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Folks, what I see here is the agony of "design build" by contractor. Yes, new branch circuit (residential) for, say, a window air conditioner is fine. But when the man-hours get to a few hundred it surely is time to tell the client 'call me when your architect/engineer provides stamped plans'. At that time I would hand the plans to my 'Estimator' and clerical staff. It takes quite a big contracting firm to afford to keep engineers on staff. Absolutely NONE of my journeymen were licensed engineers. If they were they sure wouldn't be humping pipe for a living at prevailing wage.
 
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