[jlmran]

Is the location of the receptacle acceptable? Located in a (commercial) public building.

 

[Next72969]

Lol. Gfi it

 

[Mshea]

No
face up??? even if it is not a violation I would not accept it. Strictly speaking there are permitted uses for face up outlets but under a sink? Invitation to fill the outlet with chemicals and garbage. Maybe a floor plug.

 

[Awg-Dawg]

even if it is not a violation I would not accept it.

What would you tell him you are failing him for then?

 

[btharmy]

It is accessable as far as I can tell. Face up on countertops is expressly prohibited. Face up inside a cabinet is not mentioned as a violation as far as I can find. It is stupid but not against the NEC.

 

[sparky402]

It looks like they ran the cord through a bowl maybe so nothing gets in there. I think that alone makes it ok.

 

[BBQ]

No
face up??? even if it is not a violation I would not accept it.

If it is not a violation you have to accept it right?

 

[newbi]

It looks like the previous electrician did a hack job. The receptacle is off center with the drain.

 

[RICK BOYD]

???????

you should submit this to EC&M magazine illustrated catastrophes ,
you may get a prize

http://ecmweb.com/nec/illustrated-catastrophes

 

[Deep Cover]

you should submit this to EC&M magazine illustrated catastrophes ,
you may get a prize

http://ecmweb.com/nec/illustrated-catastrophes

Why? There isn't anything wrong with it...code wise.

 

[jlmran]

Lol. Gfi it

Shouldn't it already be gfci protected? Its a commercial kitchen. 210.8?

 

[FlyingSparks]

Why? There isn't anything wrong with it...code wise.

110.12 all the way. No professional would do this ****, well....

 

[Joe Tedesco]

110.12 all the way. No professional would do this ****, well....

Not Approved! (See Definition) And .... "Receptacles mounted to and supported by a cover shall be held rigidly against the cover by more than one screw or shall be a device assembly or box cover listed and identified for securing by a single screw."

 

[markore]

It looks like the previous electrician did a hack job. The receptacle is off center with the drain.

And your avatar is a little to the left.

 

[BBQ]

110.12 all the way. No professional would do this ****, well....

From the NFPAs manual of style.

 

[Joe Tedesco]

New in 2014 NEC

New in Article 406 in the 2014 NEC

"Receptacles in Countertops and Similar Work Surfaces.

Receptacles, unless listed as receptacle assemblies for countertop applications, shall not be installed in a face-up position in countertops or similar work surfaces. Where receptacle assemblies for countertop applications are required to provide ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel in accordance with 210.8, such assemblies shall be permitted to be listed as GFCI receptacle assemblies for countertop applications."

PS: I just got a copy of the new 2014 NEC handbook as a PDF file; works great searching and copy are allowed.:thumbup:

 

[BBQ]

New in Article 406 in the 2014 NEC

"Receptacles in Countertops and Similar Work Surfaces.

Receptacles, unless listed as receptacle assemblies for countertop applications, shall not be installed in a face-up position in countertops or similar work surfaces. Where receptacle assemblies for countertop applications are required to provide ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel in accordance with 210.8, such assemblies shall be permitted to be listed as GFCI receptacle assemblies for countertop applications."

The bottom of a cabinet is not a work surface.

 

[Joe Tedesco]

True. I will ask the Massachusetts Electrical Inspectors if they would accept the installation shown in the picture at our meeting tonight in Malden. In either case this issue is a good candidate for a 2017 proposal.

 

[chicken steve]

As the install may be pre-406, perhaps the answer is rating/listing of the raised 4 sq cvr being installed in the position it is....i.e.- a floor rated cover would be required.......~CS~

 

[Bootss]

I get them on a workmanlike manner. The more ambiguous the better.
Lol