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Well guys, I'm sittin' here chastising myself, so I figured I'd let you all have a crack at me too.

I took on a job in a city I'm not licensed for, and the work was unpermitted. Actually, I'm not licensed at all, but I work in adjacent counties that have no licensing requirements. Work was slow, and I gave in.

My issue is that I completed my work without having made sure that some hot spots were repaired. This was a job where the owner was my helper, and with his assurance, he was to close some junction boxes in the attic and repair other issues.

Another problem was that a previous handyman came in and ran a 30 amp dryer circuit with the run going through a header not even 1" from the edge - I insisted that this needed to be repaired by rerunning the line properly, with at least chiseling out 1" in the header and placing a steel joist plate over it to prevent any damage from the drywallers. He told me he didn't want to pay the associated cost, and that he would make the repair himself.

I went over there yesterday to pick up some tools that I had left behind, and watched drywall going up over this unprotected romex.

Leaves me to believe that he left the jboxes open in the attic too, with blow in insulation going up as I was there.

I want to report this, for safety reasons, but my tit will be in the ringer, and I'm not sure what to do.

I'm also concerned that even if I report it, they may not inspect to the degree that I'd like, and I'm not sure about getting too specific as that will simply tell on myself.

F$%$K me for having gotten into this situation. :mad:

What would you do?
 

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Dude all those messes will be in the walls for decades.. and one day Mike Holmes son or grandson will be tearing the walls down complaining about how shoddy the work is by some guys.

Don't even sweat it.
I pretty much agree. But WHY oh WHY would you have the customer as your helper, AND leave him things to do without you there??????? That was an extremely short sighted decision.

Do the job you need to do to stay alive, but don't jeopardize your livelihood this way!
 
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I'll get a homeowner or gc to help me fish something.. but yeah, don't ever let anyone help you unless they're your apprentice. And don't ever leave things behind expecting someone else to do it, because it won't be done right or won't be done at all.

Lesson learned?
 

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cash in hand, verbal agreement, ho helps, all fine if theres no proof. but dont leave anything YOU are not comfortable with!:rolleyes:
 

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Have you considered a move to Mexico? :lol:
 

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OMG...quick pack up everything......move to Georgia.....search for the following company Cletis Electric, he has many references on here:whistling2:
 

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OK, i'll take a shot.

You are an unlicensed handyman. What the hell are you worried about?
I put it out there, so thanks.

I'll be worried for probably the rest of my life about a damn fire causing a death.

Lesson well learned about what I did, but I pride myself with the quality and safety of the work I do, and I'd lose my mind if anything ever happened that caused injury or death.

You may consider me a handyman, but I consider myself an electrician (where legally allowed). I've spent a good portion of my life working and studying with others in the trade. I'm not your average handyman. I do care about safety, code and quality.
 

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Any of you have any experience with code enforcement/inspectors actually following up on reports like this?
 

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I pretty much agree. But WHY oh WHY would you have the customer as your helper, AND leave him things to do without you there??????? That was an extremely short sighted decision.

Do the job you need to do to stay alive, but don't jeopardize your livelihood this way!
Because I'm an idiot who thought the money was more important than anything else, I guess.

I just hate it cause if anything electrical causes a fire, even if it isn't my fault, and they can't trace it to me, my conscience will grieve me.
 

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Because I'm an idiot who thought the money was more important than anything else, I guess.

I just hate it cause if anything electrical causes a fire, even if it isn't my fault, and they can't trace it to me, my conscience will grieve me.
The place isn't going to burn down, go to sleep now, rest. It will be all right. AHHH, RUN, FiRE, FIRE!!!!! Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
 

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As long as there were no backstabbed devices, blue carlon boxes or any of the work was done using an aluminum ladder, I think you'll be ok
 

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As long as there were no backstabbed devices, blue carlon boxes or any of the work was done using an aluminum ladder, I think you'll be ok
What's wrong with backstabbing devices? I've done it millions of times. I even carry an 1/8" drill bit around so I can back-stab #12 in #14 only devices.
 

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Inasmuch as we appreciate your having scruples GreenOne, i would caution not placing too much faith in the electrical trades oversight bureaucracy.

They are no altruism.

~CS~
 

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What's wrong with backstabbing devices? I've done it millions of times. I even carry an 1/8" drill bit around so I can back-stab #12 in #14 only devices.
Five,
Did you see that post I made where the guy couldn't fit the #12 in the back wire hole so he used the little rectangle release hole to stick the wire in?
It didn't work so, I just landed them on the screw terminals.
 
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