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Anyone familiar with a "salting" agreement??, and can explain details
Basically the hall asks one of its members to go to work for a non union contractor and pays the difference in wages.

The purpose of the salt depends upon the contractor, but in most cases it is to provide an example of the quality manpower available via the hall and to expose the non union manpower with a union perspective.

( There will be many folks on this forum who will claim all sorts of things about salts. Anecdotal tales must be taken, well, with a grain of salt. )

IBTL.
 

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( There will be many folks on this forum who will claim all sorts of things about salts. Anecdotal tales must be taken, well, with a grain of salt. )

IBTL.
Translation

There will be many people who will speak truths eejack does not want to hear and will deny

Of course if you take some time on google you will find a lot of info and you can decide for yourself.
 

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Translation

There will be many people who will speak truths eejack does not want to hear and will deny

Of course if you take some time on google you will find a lot of info and you can decide for yourself.
I forgot about google...
Here is a link to a salting agreement.
http://www.ibew46.org/documents/SaltAgreement.110705.pdf

And if you read the salting horror stories, look at who wrote them and what site they are on and ask yourself...do they ever say anything pleasant about workers or unions...grain of salt.
 

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why, non union shops have no problem talking to other companies guys at the supply house when they need qualified help, how is salting any different (when properly done)?
Agreed.... it seems to me like if you were truly not doing anything wrong ( as far as treating your guys right, and following the labor laws) then you would really have nothing to worry about having a "salt"
 

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Agreed.... it seems to me like if you were truly not doing anything wrong ( as far as treating your guys right, and following the labor laws) then you would really have nothing to worry about having a "salt"
That is true, if the company follows every rule, no matter how obscure to the letter, every day. They should not have a problem.:rolleyes:

Just like if a cop sets up a speed trap at the bottom of a hill and you always keep your speed perfect you have nothing to worry about.

The salts I have worked with did all they could due to draw the company into breaking a rule.

In one case there were three of them that worked one job we were on and not once said a thing about being in the union to anyone for about 3 months. Their work was average. So to say they were there to show the rest of us how good the union was is simply untrue.

Once they 'came out' we all told them to screw.

To each their own.
 

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Not in the union but my experiance with salts tells me the agreement must be something like this.

I agree to be a lying sack of crap for the good of the union.


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The local in Bobs area is aggressive and does everything it can to protect it's work(I know you don't like the way that sounds Bob) so it's a bit different there.

The program does two things, when a local is slow, they allow guys to work non-union to make wages and promote the work of its members.
Some think guys go to a union shop to sabotage it or something like that. Guys I know that have done some salting generally had a good experience and didn't cause any trouble.
Like most things involving human beings, there are always problems. Problem stories are much more interesting so, they get passes around a bit more.

Hope that helps.
 

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The local in Bobs area is aggressive and does everything it can to protect it's work(I know you don't like the way that sounds Bob) so it's a bit different there.
I know I don't like the way that sounds. You make it seem like somehow they are entitled to certain work. Like by some devine intervention it is their work for the doing and someone else is stealing it.
 

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Speedy Petey said:
I know I don't like the way that sounds. You make it seem like somehow they are entitled to certain work. Like by some devine intervention it is their work for the doing and someone else is stealing it.
His description of salting is completely false also.

But then that is what we expect from the likes of 360max,LGLS, Jrannis and big bird.

Self entitlement and lies.
 
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