[dadtodc]

Hi all,
I am about to take my Journeyman electrical test on Saturday. I have been going over the NEC and trying to figure out these calculations. I really need help on this one I just cant figure out where some of the numbers came from or how they determined what to use. I am sure I am just over looking something.

Single-Family Dwelling Service Load Example​

The dwelling has a floor area of 2000 ft 2, exclusive of an unfinished cellar not
adaptable for future use, unfinished attic, and open porches. Appliances are a 12-kW
range and a 5.5-kW, 240-V dryer. Assume range and dryer kW ratings equivalent to
kVA ratings in accordance with 220.54 and 220.55.​

Calculated Load [see 220.40]
General Lighting Load: 2000 ft 2 at 3 VA per ft 2 = 6000 VA
Minimum Number of Branch Circuits Required [see 210.11(A)]
General Lighting Load: 6000 VA ÷ 120 V = 50 A​

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This requires three 15-A, 2-wire or two 20-A, 2-wire circuits.​

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Small Appliance Load: Two 2-wire, 20-A circuits [see 210.11(C)(1)]​

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Laundry Load: One 2-wire, 20-A circuit [see 210.11(C)(2)]​

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Bathroom Branch Circuit: One 2-wire, 20-A circuit (no additional load
calculation is required for this circuit) [see 210.11(C)(3)]​

Minimum Size Feeder Required​

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[see 220.40]​

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General Lighting = 6000 VA​

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Small Appliance = 3,000 VA​

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Laundry = 1,500 VA​

Total = 10500 VA​

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3000 VA at 100% = 3,000 VA (I dont get this one!)​

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9000 VA - 3000 VA = 6000 VA at 35% = 2625 VA ( or this one)​

Net Load = 5625 VA​

Range (see Table 220.55) = 8,000 VA
Dryer Load (see Table 220.54) = 5,500 VA​

Net Calculated Load = 19125 VA​

Net Calculated Load for 120/240-V, 3-wire, single-phase service or
feeder​

19125 VA ÷ 240 V =​

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79.7 A​

Sections 230.42(B) and 230.79 require service conductors and disconnecting means
rated not less than 100 amperes.​

Calculation for Neutral for Feeder and Service​

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Lighting and Small Appliance Load = 5625 VA​

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Range: 8000 VA at 70% (see 220.61) = 5,600 VA​

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Dryer: 5500 VA at 70% (see 220.61) = 3,850 VA​

Total = 15075 VA​

Calculated Load for Neutral​

15075 VA ÷ 240 V = 62.8 A

 

[Dennis Alwon]

From T. 220.42 we see that the first 3000 va is at 100% and the up 120,000 at 35%.

Let's say we have a calculated lighting load demand factor of 11,500 va.

This means the first 3000 are at 100% which equals 3000va
Now the rest of the load is at 35%. So we have 11,500- 3000= rest of the load = 8,500. 8500 X 35%= 2975va. So now we have a total of 3000va+2975va= 5975va. Now you calculate the range, dryer, etc. Look at Annex D in the back of the NEC for a good example-- example D(1)

 

[dadtodc]

ahhh

Man I really sat and stared at annex "D" for ever. This is the example from annex D only square feet changed. I could not get this at all. I got it now. Thanks a ton for the information I really do appreciate it. I am taking the trst on Saturday, and I am just not getting the small stuff!

 

[dadtodc]

One more thing, why does it only add up the small appliance and the kva per square foot to get the 9000. is it because the laundry circuit isnt considered because it isnt part of the lighting load. or am I way off?

 

[raider1]

One more thing, why does it only add up the small appliance and the kva per square foot to get the 9000. is it because the laundry circuit isnt considered because it isnt part of the lighting load. or am I way off?

The laundry circuit can be included in the lighting loads and be subject to the demand factors of Table 220.42. Take a look at the last sentence of 220.52(B).

Chris

 

[dadtodc]

The laundry circuit can be included in the lighting loads and be subject to the demand factors of Table 220.42. Take a look at the last sentence of 220.52(B).

Chris

Ok, I read the sentence and I see that it can be used. I read that before and that is why I asked. So if that is the case then in myexample why is the laundry load not used in the calculation? Ihave 6000kva, for the sqft, and 3000kva for the 2 1500kva circuts. That is where the 9000 comes from right. I alsohowever have a single 1500kva from laundry that isnt used. That I think is what keeps throwing me off.

 

[raider1]

Ok, I read the sentence and I see that it can be used. I read that before and that is why I asked. So if that is the case then in myexample why is the laundry load not used in the calculation? Ihave 6000kva, for the sqft, and 3000kva for the 2 1500kva circuts. That is where the 9000 comes from right. I alsohowever have a single 1500kva from laundry that isnt used. That I think is what keeps throwing me off.

The problem is that after you take to 3000 VA at 100% you used 9000 instead of 10,500 to subtract the 3000 VA.

Chris

 

[dadtodc]

The problem is that after you take to 3000 VA at 100% you used 9000 instead of 10,500 to subtract the 3000 VA.

Chris

Ok I am with you now. The reason I was doing that is because the example I gave you was from a prep CD I bought. It differed from the annex "D", but made absolutly no sense to ma at all. Thanks so much for clearing all of this up!