[pugz134]

I always twist beforehand. Just the way I was taught. Also only use 3m multicolor wire nuts. They hold better than any others I've used. Can't say whether it's right or wrong. It works for me.

 

[LARMGUY]

As an apprentice I had an old timer show me. That's a one heck of a solid way to tie wire together. If I remember correctly, the wires cross then fold back on each other and twist, so that there is two separate twists, one wire twisting on the other. I don't know if I said that well enough.

Then solder letting the solder wet the whole splice and fillet all of the spaces.

 

[LARMGUY]

When I do stranded, I spread apart the strands fanning them out. Then I lay one fanned strand on top of the other and twist. It kind of braids them together and forms a really strong joint. Then wirenut or solder.

 

[chrisg9265]

If the stranded wire isn't hot, I'll hand twist it then put the wire nut on. If it is hot, I'll just let the wire nut do it's job. I'm not a fan of wagos except for solid wire. Currently I use only stranded wire for what I do and hand twisting them together seems to give a good, solid connection.

Yea...that's how I was taught

 

[Chrisibew440]

2 stranded wires + wago = problem solved

A wago's your solid connection.

 

[Chrisibew440]

Im a big fan of wagos, but after a lighting Reno job where I was using them on stranded, I decided to stop. I didn't have any failures, but I really didn't like the connection that stranded made in a wagos.

Maybe I stripped to much insulation off, maybe i didn't hold my tongue right, who knows. But until I find a way to use stranded in a wagos and not feel shaky about the connection, im gonna have to stick with wire nuts.

Wago's are a bad choice for solid.

 

[papaotis]

i thought wagos were designed for solid?:001_huh:

 

[wendon]

Solid wires twist around themselves better than stranded.

I twist the hell out of my nuts and I once returned to a job I did and had a wire nut pretty much fall out of a JB I opened. Since then I don't trust stranded connections as much as solid.

I wouldn't have thought it could have ever happened to me. It left me wondering if the stranded wire wants to untwist or something.

Time to start using a quality wire nut like a tan twister!!:thumbup:

 

[Chrisibew440]

i thought wagos were designed for solid?:001_huh:

They claim they are. I'm not a believer. Wire nuts work just fine except you have to put effort into them, oh no!

 

[papaotis]

i believe in wirenuts way before wagos. but as ive stated in the past, wagos have gotten better

 

[wendon]

When I do stranded, I spread apart the strands fanning them out. Then I lay one fanned strand on top of the other and twist. It kind of braids them together and forms a really strong joint. Then wirenut or solder.

Wow! How long does it take you to do 30 #10 splices that way???:001_huh:
I cut em, strip em, and twist the wire nut on.

 

[Going_Commando]

Yea...that's how I was taught

That's what I do too. Hand twist, clip to length, Wirenut on. I had problems getting Wirenuts to start (3M tan/reds) when using my linemans to twist stranded wires. No clue why, but I hand twist as it makes me feel better than just lining up the wires and cranking the nut on. I also pre-twist solid, so there's that too.

 

[Chrisibew440]

That's what I do too. Hand twist, clip to length, Wirenut on. I had problems getting Wirenuts to start (3M tan/reds) when using my linemans to twist stranded wires. No clue why, but I hand twist as it makes me feel better than just lining up the wires and cranking the nut on. I also pre-twist solid, so there's that too.

Ban the pre-twister please.

 

[chicken steve]

methinks all the wires entering the nut of equal length should be a strong consideration.....~CS~

 

[hardworkingstiff]

methinks all the wires entering the nut of equal length should be a strong consideration.....~CS~

Absolutely! If you don't get them about perfect (stranded wire), one conductor gets pulled into the wirenut while the other gets pushed out.

 

[chicken steve]

Lately i'm finding that i need to hold all my wires together, and trim them flush, because of my eyeglass denial ....

~CS~

 

[Southeast Power]

Then solder letting the solder wet the whole splice and fillet all of the spaces.

I think if I caught someone using a western union splice and then soldering it, I would get their money.

Reminds me of the hipster my daughter saw in Brooklyn using an old style typewriter while sitting on the sidewalk. :laughing:

 

[Hmacanada]

I think if I caught someone using a western union splice and then soldering it, I would get their money. Reminds me of the hipster my daughter saw in Brooklyn using an old style typewriter while sitting on the sidewalk. :laughing:

I used to use western unions all the time. To splice tracer wire for buried plastic pipes gas/water. Don't anymore though , since going on my own it's a butt splice and a heat shrink way faster !!
As far as putting connections together.... Twist solids together. And stranded places together trim to same length and spin on wire nut