[Hack Work]

Has any small contractor hired from a temp agency?

Someone recently mentioned that when you do this, you don't have to worry about paying worker's comp, unemployment, etc. You just pay the temping company and write it off as a general expense.

Anyone?

 

[chicken steve]

You're paying for all the above through the temp agency Hax

~CS~

 

[Hack Work]

You're paying for all the above through the temp agency Hax

~CS~

Yes, that is understood.

 

[drspec]

I've done it twice

One experience was good, other was bad

So bad I doubt I would ever do it again

 

[Hack Work]

I've done it twice

One experience was good, other was bad

So bad I doubt I would ever do it again

What was good and what was bad?

 

[carryyourbooks]

i do it all the time. you pay a premium, but you can send them home just as soon as his feet hit the floor after he comes down the ladder.

 

[chicken steve]

why pay it when most state unemp depts have a list of wannabes Books?


~CS~

 

[MHElectric]

I've done it twice

One experience was good, other was bad

So bad I doubt I would ever do it again

So bad that you'd like to share the story and not keep us hanging??.....:thumbup:

Has any small contractor hired from a temp agency?

Someone recently mentioned that when you do this, you don't have to worry about paying worker's comp, unemployment, etc. You just pay the temping company and write it off as a general expense.

Anyone?

Read an old thread called "How I make money hiring Convicts and Parolees" By Big City Electrician. Great thread, I think it was Romex Racer undercover, but even if it wasn't the guy had the system down like the back of his hand.

Id be interested in how well this works out, cause paying guys under the table is for the birds.

 

[Hack Work]

Yup, at some point I am going to have to stop paying under the table. That's coming straight out of my profit without being about to write it off so I am paying taxes on it.

I like the idea of someone else doing the work and having the liability of paying for and withholding everything necessary. I also like the ability to not employ the men when I don't need them.

Maybe it does suck, that's why I was hoping some people with experience would chime in.

 

[fp.unit]

Here you have to hire an apprentice. Best you can do is hire a starter and make them an apprentice but you can't string them along forever and you can't hire labourers to do electrical work.

 

[drspec]

What was good and what was bad?

the good was a few years ago and started out bad

I was working an out of town lighting retrofit project and my lead I hired specifically to run the job ****ed me on the first day. Contacted a temp agency and asked for experienced guys. When they showed up neither one had ever replaced a ballast and one had almost no electrical experience.

Luckily they had brains in their head and were easily trained. Job went off without a hitch and I actually made money.

The bad was just a couple of months ago. Once again I requested experienced help. Guy they sent me was ex union with tons of experience. He was one of the worst workers I have ever seen. Next guy they sent me was even worse. Took him over 6 hours to run 2 circuits in an open stud house, then I had to pay someone to redo half of what he did.
Sent him back that afternoon and requested 2 more guys. They sent me a father and son team. These guys shared tools and the son couldn't even be left alone to make up grounds for a receptacle.

I took the son with me one day for a small job and let's just say that was the last I used him.

And from what I could gather from the temp agency, these were some of their top guys that other companies had requested in the past.

So that was a failed experiment I doubt I would repeat.

 

[robnj772]

Yup, at some point I am going to have to stop paying under the table. That's coming straight out of my profit without being about to write it off so I am paying taxes on it. I like the idea of someone else doing the work and having the liability of paying for and withholding everything necessary. I also like the ability to not employ the men when I don't need them. Maybe it does suck, that's why I was hoping some people with experience would chime in.

Hire a legitimate employee ya cheap bastard!

 

[robnj772]

Has any small contractor hired from a temp agency? Someone recently mentioned that when you do this, you don't have to worry about paying worker's comp, unemployment, etc. You just pay the temping company and write it off as a general expense. Anyone?

Isn't that how all the union contractors get their employees in Florida ?

 

[TGGT]

Haha, you bitch about ce/cw's but you're going to support a temp agency? You're hilarious dude.

 

[MHElectric]

the good was a few years ago and started out bad

I was working an out of town lighting retrofit project and my lead I hired specifically to run the job ****ed me on the first day. Contacted a temp agency and asked for experienced guys. When they showed up neither one had ever replaced a ballast and one had almost no electrical experience.

Luckily they had brains in their head and were easily trained. Job went off without a hitch and I actually made money.

The bad was just a couple of months ago. Once again I requested experienced help. Guy they sent me was ex union with tons of experience. He was one of the worst workers I have ever seen. Next guy they sent me was even worse. Took him over 6 hours to run 2 circuits in an open stud house, then I had to pay someone to redo half of what he did.
Sent him back that afternoon and requested 2 more guys. They sent me a father and son team. These guys shared tools and the son couldn't even be left alone to make up grounds for a receptacle.

I took the son with me one day for a small job and let's just say that was the last I used him.

And from what I could gather from the temp agency, these were some of their top guys that other companies had requested in the past.

So that was a failed experiment I doubt I would repeat.

Who did you rent from? Tradesmen or Premier Staffing?

 

[Hack Work]

Haha, you bitch about ce/cw's but you're going to support a temp agency? You're hilarious dude.

CE/CW's are the scum of the Earth and should be killed.

 

[drspec]

Who did you rent from? Tradesmen or Premier Staffing?

Tradesman

the one guy was so bad I only ended up paying 4 hours for his 8 hours he claimed he worked

 

[TGGT]

CE/CW's are the scum of the Earth and should be killed.

Even when I was non-union I avoided temp agencies like the plague. I think the strongest argument for a nationwide "race to the bottom" is because of temp agencies.

I honestly don't care what you do, but I just about LOL'd on this one.

 

[Switched]

I had kicked around this idea a few times, but always opted not to partake of their services. I just can't see any type of real quality control with it. Heck, it is hard for a seasoned owner to choose the right guy, how is a temp. agency with no trade knowledge or experience supposed to get it right!

I did work with on really good guy that worked for the temp. agencies once years back. He just liked to travel all over the place. Had a JW license in like 12 different states. He grew up military and was accustomed to never being anywhere very long. :blink:

 

[FrunkSlammer]

I'd rather pay a decent guy under the table than pay some temp agency a bunch of money for some drug addict who needs cash today. I've seen those temp agency workers on big sites, they're a pretty sad lot.. waste of a body.