[QualityElectric]

Went to an electrical contractor back in 2007 to apply as an apprentice in his apprenticeship program (4 year program in which he paid for the classes). I had 4 years of carpentry experience. I took a test on my electrical knowledge and didn't get a single question right. I was immediately interviewed after I filled out an application and the guy begged me to work for him. I turned down the job, because the pay was lower than what I was making at my carpentry job.

Fast forward to this year. It was my second time applying to the same job. Nothing had changed, except I knew more about the trade and had 2 more years of carpentry experience, of which 6 months were recent experience. He no longer has an apprenticeship program or benefits. I was told that I had to fill out an extended application and that I "might" get interviewed. When I got there, there were two other applicants scheduled. I took another test on my electrical knowledge and got 50% right. The EC didn't have time to interview any of us and his secretary said that he would call if he was interested.

 

[azgard]

Sound's about right, I applied for an entry level position about 3 years ago, Monster decided to destroy my hope of ever getting the job. Over 150 applicants with the majority of them having BA degree's with at least 10 years of experience. To reiterate, this was just an entry level job.

 

[rewire]

Most contractors are looking for skilled labor which is easier to find because if the down economy. As things improve the are trying to snag the best before they go to the competition.

 

[Edrick]

Funny because the economy isn't down and all signs have pointed to it being better. I'm able to charge more now, skilled people are shopping for higher paid jobs and getting them. Suppose it's all in how you look at it and where you're at. But things have been continuing an upwards trend around here

 

[QualityElectric]

Funny because the economy isn't down and all signs have pointed to it being better.

:no: I hate having to tell people how the economy works...
...just because the stock market is up doesn't mean that the economy is good. Sure, it's good for the top 20% of income earners, but there are more jobs being lost right now than being created. The unemployment rate only factors in those who are on unemployment insurance. It doesn't factor in those who ran out of unemployment benefits due to time expiration.

skilled people are shopping for higher paid jobs and getting them.

Wow. You are so misinformed. I put an ad in Craigslist and got 25 responses. I had guys with 35 years of experience telling me that they'd take $15/hr just to stay working.

Suppose it's all in how you look at it and where you're at.

Yeah. You must be working in North Dakota.

 

[Edrick]

:no: I hate having to tell people how the economy works... ...just because the stock market is up doesn't mean that the economy is good. Sure, it's good for the top 20% of income earners, but there are more jobs being lost right now than being created. The unemployment rate only factors in those who are on unemployment insurance. It doesn't factor in those who ran out of unemployment benefits due to time expiration. Wow. You are so misinformed. I put an ad in Craigslist and got 25 responses. I had guys with 35 years of experience telling me that they'd take $15/hr just to stay working. Yeah. You must be working in North Dakota.

Uh no Massachusetts and thank you I do know how the economy works and employment. I am curious though to what party are you a member of?

 

[QualityElectric]

Uh no Massachusetts and thank you I do know how the economy works and employment. I am curious though to what party are you a member of?

I'm an independent. In my honest opinion, I don't think party has anything to do with the economy. But, now that I said that, I'm sure I'll get plenty of viscous posts. :laughing:

 

[Edrick]

I'm an independent. In my honest opinion, I don't think party has anything to do with the economy. But, now that I said that, I'm sure I'll get plenty of viscous posts. :laughing:

I was just curious as most of the people who I know that are Liberal or Democratic maybe some Indepedent find the economy is getting better. But every republican I know or have seen insists there's impdending doom and the country sucks and we're all going to die from a market crash.

 

[brian john]

I'm an independent. In my honest opinion, I don't think party has anything to do with the economy. But, now that I said that, I'm sure I'll get plenty of viscous posts. :laughing:

How the economy works

Good economy - you and your neighbor are working

Recession - your neighbor got laid off

Depression - You got laid off.

It is also very area dependent, here we have had at or near full employment during the hard times the rest of the country went through.

 

[QualityElectric]

I was just curious as most of the people who I know that are Liberal or Democratic maybe some Indepedent find the economy is getting better. But every republican I know or have seen insists there's impdending doom and the country sucks and we're all going to die from a market crash.

I voted for Obama and my family leans Democrat. As long as the Republican party wants tax cuts for the rich and wants to send jobs overseas, I will vote Democrat. Unless another Raegan comes along.

 

[QualityElectric]

It is also very area dependent, here we have had at or near full employment during the hard times the rest of the country went through.

Oh yeah, Virginia. That's cause you guys have all of those government jobs.

 

[sbrn33]

I voted for Obama and my family leans Democrat. As long as the Republican party wants tax cuts for the rich and wants to send jobs overseas, I will vote Democrat. Unless another Raegan comes along.

And then you wonder why you can't find a job. Who cares King Obama will take care of you.:thumbup:

 

[Next72969]

Uh no Massachusetts and thank you I do know how the economy works and employment. I am curious though to what party are you a member of?

why does someones outlook on the economy provoke you to bring politics to the discussion?

 

[greenwire]

I voted for Obama and my family leans Democrat. As long as the Republican party wants tax cuts for the rich and wants to send jobs overseas, I will vote Democrat. Unless another Raegan comes along.

Um, I believe it's the other way around. The tax increases that the Democratic Party loves to level against businesses is part of what drives those businesses out of the country, or completely shut down. That and government regulate minimum wage laws that small companies won't tolerate. Of course they have to follow the law, but as soon as they have to pay out more in payroll, either their prices go up, or people get laid off.

Glad to hear you're a Reagan fan, but I don't think he'd agree with your premise.

 

[readydave8]

Yeah. You must be working in North Dakota.

Can you relocate to find work?

 

[greenwire]

why does someones outlook on the economy provoke you to bring politics to the discussion?

Because politics is how we ALL operate, isn't it? As long as we don't go mudslinging each other, what's the harm in expressing an opinion?

 

[bkmichael65]

Oh yeah, Virginia. That's cause you guys have all of those government jobs.

Actually, California has the highest number of federal government employees. If you're going by percentage of workforce with federal government jobs the prize goes to Hawaii

 

[QualityElectric]

And then you wonder why you can't find a job. Who cares King Obama will take care of you.:thumbup:

Better than being an idiot and putting $ in the 1%ers pockets so they can buy another yacht.

 

[Next72969]

Because politics is how we ALL operate, isn't it? As long as we don't go mudslinging each other, what's the harm in expressing an opinion?

um youve been here a while, politics are the reason almost every thread is closed here.

 

[Voltron]

Yeah.. IBTL