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Here's a quick 8 hour, start to finish install. Started at the shop a 8am loading the generator, leaving the customer's house at 4:30.
 

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no 5 foot from wall requirement?
 

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can you use 5 foot as rule of thumb, for all generators and hot tubs?
 

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Well i was taught 5 foot and i do generac, mayb its a jersey thing
18 inches in NJ even with wood siding, due to fire rating of the enclosure. Maybe a town rule, no problem here in Newton. Generac's installation guide contains a statement explaining the certification - it might be useful to show it to the AHJ.

Kohler air cooled models have composite enclosures, not fire rated, and require 5 feet from combustible surfaces.
 

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What are you guys doing about the PM for the generator after you install it? Are you offering the customer a PM contract? Just hand them the paperwork and wish them luck? Or ..... ?

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What are you guys doing about the PM for the generator after you install it? Are you offering the customer a PM contract? Just hand them the paperwork and wish them luck? Or ..... ?

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We've got 500 Generator Maintenance Agreements.

Starting at (Bronze Plan):

$348 air cooled
$444 liquid cooled 22kw - 60kw
$544 liquid cooled 70kw - 150 kW

Silver and Gold Plan include more benefits, like priority service etc and cost more.
 

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What are you guys doing about the PM for the generator after you install it? Are you offering the customer a PM contract? Just hand them the paperwork and wish them luck? Or ..... ?

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We include first year maintenance in our sales contract, and offer agreements after that.
 

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It's funny because the big work when it comes to these installations usually goes fast. It's all the little work that takes all the time.

For example, separating the neutrals from the grounds in the main panel could take a lot of time if it's a packed panel. Running the wire to the condensing unit to shed the AC could be a pain. Running new GEC's to the ATS if the existing ones aren't long enough could eat up an hour or more. Installing the modules to load shedding circuits if necessary could also take time.
 

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It's funny because the big work when it comes to these installations usually goes fast. It's all the little work that takes all the time.

For example, separating the neutrals from the grounds in the main panel could take a lot of time if it's a packed panel. Running the wire to the condensing unit to shed the AC could be a pain. Running new GEC's to the ATS if the existing ones aren't long enough could eat up an hour or more. Installing the modules to load shedding circuits if necessary could also take time.
How come you would need to separate grounds and neutrals in the main panel?
 

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How come you would need to separate grounds and neutrals in the main panel?
The neutral must be bonded to ground at only one location, the first disconnect. Before the transfer panel was installed, the first disconnect would have been in the main panel.

Now that there is a whole house transfer switch ahead of the old panel, the transfer switch is now the first disconnect and is the place that neutral/ground bond must be located. Beyond this point (i.e the original main panel), all neutrals and grounds must be separated/isolated .

These are the shortcuts many generator installers take to cut down on install time (not saying this was the case here).
 

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looks nice.

I only see one violation. (maybe) - why didn't you leave clearance in front of the ats ? (don't you think it will need to be serviced while energized, at some point ?)

also I have a question- does that gas regulator have a blowoff valve ? (I can't tell)
 
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