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Hi All,

I want to train to be a fully qualified electrician. As far as i know these are the qualifications i need to become FULLY qualified.

c&g 2330 level 2 and level 3
part p
16th edition


Is this right? , do i need level 2 and 3 or just level 2 or just level 3??

Also if i get these qualifications is it realistic to think i could walk into a job paying 25-30k?


Thanks alot in advance for any replies :thumbsup:
 

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You are obviously in GB. But I would tell you them same thing there I'll tell you here from the states. Show up on time everyday (that means at least 15 minutes early), with youre tools and an attitude to learn and work. I'll give you the rest.
 

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Nope. You can't walk into a 30K job unless you can do the job. The qualifications are worthless without the experience. The qualifications are good for JIB (union) grading but useful skills come first.

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Nope. You can't walk into a 30K job unless you can do the job. The qualifications are worthless without the experience. The qualifications are good for JIB (union) grading but useful skills come first.

Frank

So how am i supposed to get a job without experience?

I cant get experience unless i get a job to gain the experience?!?!
 

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The old fashion way, get a job making starting wages and work your way up the ladder, showing up, reading all you can regarding what you are doing, attend classes, work overtime when asked, do the menial jobs that come to all apprentices without crying.
 

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So how am i supposed to get a job without experience?

I cant get experience unless i get a job to gain the experience?!?!
Don't know how things work in the UK, but if you were in the US, I'd tell you to lay open the phone book and call every electrical contractor in your area to ask about "helper" or "apprentice" openings. Not sure what the equivalent word is for the UK. Alternately, if you present well, call on these contractors in person at their shop or office instead of calling by phone. What I'm trying to say is - market yourself. Nobody's going to ring your door hoping there might be someone inside that wants to get into the electrical trade.
 

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My age goes against me to do that. Im 29!

Companies like that want school leavers so they can pay them basic wage.

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Stoke.

Here is the way to do it.

You get yourself a job with a Company that is a JIB member. (Union) Your job will be as an electricians mate. Move to Improver later. At all points you are going to enrol for your AM1 and AM2 training and examinations. Keep a good record in your Log Book. Show you are up to the job and have your employer nominate you as an Adult Trainee. You have now all the technical qualifications so you just need the practical. Under the Adult scheme you should get to do all that is required of an Electrician. Later take the practical tests of AM1 and AM2. (These include all the CGLI exams also). Your employer - if you have managed to stick it out long enough - will nominate you with the JIB as an electrician. If they judge you as acceptable. Then away you go. Two other rungs remain if you want to go higher. Approved Electrician and Technician. Each requires further study and training. So your age need not be a barrier but Tech schooling will cost you a day a week from work without pay and you will have to pay all fees yourself. Unless you get lucky and get some training grant. They are available. Make enquiries. Or you can simply get Part P and operate as a Domestic Installer (Private Houses - do not confuse with Residential because this can include dwellings occupied by others that are not owner occupiers and may include communal areas etc). You will not be able to call yourself an Electrician but you can earn the £30k you want within this limited scope without the need for sponsorship or much training.

frank

PS There are lots of electrical companies in the Social Housing market doing just remodeling works for major Construction Companies. Find out where in your area Council House repairs are taking place and locate the electrician. They are short of workers in this field I know for sure - and since the work is basically simple to understand you may gain entry as a helper stage and learn from there. If you wanted to train as an Electrician proper with an apprenticeship you would need General Certificates of Education of at least Grade C and to include 2 Sciences. My advice. Go social housing and aim for DOMESTIC INSTALLER Grade.
 

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I've heard somewhere this new generation is called the "give me" generation, but I don't think Stokes fall in there.

I can't wait for the day when I can walk up to any type of profession, tell them what I want to do, what i want to make, and by the way I have no clue what I'm doing.

I had apprentices in my same class in their 50's making the same pay as me and at times doing crappier work than me, but they never once complained.

I'm not a contractor, but I'd be hard pressed to hire a guy that is already whining when he still doesn't even know HOW to find a job.
 

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HA Stoke there are many reasons why you cant just one why you should Im 35yrs old 4th year apprentice sometimes still doing the crap work becouse it has to be done and you know what I love what I do and if it was easy then everybody would be in the business
 

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Hi,

You need a city and guilds level 3, which covers the theory side. (ROUGHLY £1000).

You also need an NVQ level 3 (ROUGHLY £1000) which will cover the practical side. You can only achieve this by working in the industry and completing your AM2 (ROUGHLY £600).

This is very achievable regardless of age, but you may find you have to fund it yourself!

Once you have achieved this, decide which area you are going to specialise, i.e. domestic, commercial, high voltage, ect, ect.......this will then determine which courses you need to pursue

hope this helps
 

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Stokes, I started 8 yrs, ago At age 30 making poor money. BrianJohn as usual is correct. Atleast 15 minutes early EVERY day. I'm thirty minutes early EVERY day. My shop is laying off 30 to 40% of workforce this week. My boss told me not to sweat it. Why? see above.
 
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