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Non-Union?
Yup.Non-Union?
This is backwards. Union contractors 99% of the time bid large scale jobs where profit margins are larger to make them more competitive with companies that have a lower wage rate. On a $5k-$10k job paying a first year apprentice $12-$14 an hour plus full health benefits and retirement is not viable because you're bidding against a guy paying $10 an hour plus a 401k for a similar worker. Seems like a small difference, but it's huge.The gentleman told me residential costs more than commercial, this is why the Union does very little of it.
I have a question for you guys.
I spoke with the training coordinator of the MIAMI local (IBEW 349) and he mentioned that this local does very little residential. Who does residential in Miami then ?
That sounds like quality work to me. :no:Yes, they call the flatters. We have building called 2 flats and 3 flats in the city. I guess that flat thing stuck. They are piping maniacs. Not uncommon to see a guy throw in and I mean THROW…. IN 1000ft in a 8 hrs day. The union also has a R card division.
It's not a car show. it just has to meet code and work.That sounds like quality work to me. :no:
The last time I was in Fla. my waiter was an electrician and said he makes more money waiting tables.Thank you guys. Is there any Association / organization doing residential then ?
Does ABC (www.abc.org) do residential for example?
How much do residential electricians make an hour? The gentleman told me residential costs more than commercial, this is why the Union does very little of it.
There must be a lot of $$$ involved, considering the lots of people who live in Miami and all the hotels, restaurants, bars, etc.
I wonder if residential is bigger than commercial (industrial).
It cannot be illegals if they get paid more than an IBEW JM……Illegals
What you say makes sense with what the guy said. Union contractors bid large INDUSTRIAL jobs, because if they bid small residential jobs, they would need to pay their JMs more and profits would be small or they would have a loss.This is backwards. Union contractors 99% of the time bid large scale jobs where profit margins are larger to make them more competitive with companies that have a lower wage rate. On a $5k-$10k job paying a first year apprentice $12-$14 an hour plus full health benefits and retirement is not viable because you're bidding against a guy paying $10 an hour plus a 401k for a similar worker. Seems like a small difference, but it's huge.
What do you mean?Snow Birds and 28 kinds of Third World .
Pete
Do you mean that residential union electricians practically do not exist and residential is only done by Non-Union electricians?Chicago has to be the only city that the words "residential union electrician" are ever used consecutively.
That sucks. However, what kind of electrician? Did he have any experience?The last time I was in Fla. my waiter was an electrician and said he makes more money waiting tables.
My bad. When I made that statement I did not realize it was in the union section.That sucks. However, what kind of electrician? Did he have any experience?
A Union JM in South FL gets $27.5 / hour if I remember correctly and an apprentice starts at about $14/hour the first year.
Pretty much. It is tough for residential electricians to make a living, especially with Home Depot telling everyone they can do it themselves ( and puts all the material pricing out there in the open so marking it up is more difficult ) - I wager that really cuts into the profit margin - and union workers make too much to allow for any really profitability in that market.Do you mean that residential union electricians practically do not exist and residential is only done by Non-Union electricians?
You might be interested that electricians don't do not residential units in Miami.I have a question for you guys.
I spoke with the training coordinator of the MIAMI local (IBEW 349) and he mentioned that this local does very little residential. Who does residential in Miami then ?