[Natan]

I have a question for you guys.

I spoke with the training coordinator of the MIAMI local (IBEW 349) and he mentioned that this local does very little residential. Who does residential in Miami then ?

 

[FrunkSlammer]

Non-Union?

 

[Chris Kennedy]

Non-Union?

Yup.

 

[Natan]

Thank you guys. Is there any Association / organization doing residential then ?

Does ABC (www.abc.org) do residential for example?

How much do residential electricians make an hour? The gentleman told me residential costs more than commercial, this is why the Union does very little of it.

There must be a lot of $$$ involved, considering the lots of people who live in Miami and all the hotels, restaurants, bars, etc.

I wonder if residential is bigger than commercial (industrial).

 

[Ozzy1990]

Illegals

 

[southvalleysparky]

The gentleman told me residential costs more than commercial, this is why the Union does very little of it.

This is backwards. Union contractors 99% of the time bid large scale jobs where profit margins are larger to make them more competitive with companies that have a lower wage rate. On a $5k-$10k job paying a first year apprentice $12-$14 an hour plus full health benefits and retirement is not viable because you're bidding against a guy paying $10 an hour plus a 401k for a similar worker. Seems like a small difference, but it's huge.

 

[pete87]

I have a question for you guys.

I spoke with the training coordinator of the MIAMI local (IBEW 349) and he mentioned that this local does very little residential. Who does residential in Miami then ?

Snow Birds and 28 kinds of Third World .





Pete

 

[Bkessler]

Chicago has to be the only city that the words "residential union electrician" are ever used consecutively.

 

[SVT CAMR]

Yes, they call them flatters. We have building called 2 flats and 3 flats in the city. I guess that flat thing stuck. They are piping maniacs. Not uncommon to see a guy throw in and I mean THROW…. IN 1000ft in a 8 hrs day. The union also has a R card division.

 

[MTW]

Yes, they call the flatters. We have building called 2 flats and 3 flats in the city. I guess that flat thing stuck. They are piping maniacs. Not uncommon to see a guy throw in and I mean THROW…. IN 1000ft in a 8 hrs day. The union also has a R card division.

That sounds like quality work to me. :no:

 

[SVT CAMR]

That sounds like quality work to me. :no:

It's not a car show. it just has to meet code and work.

 

[SVT CAMR]

Thank you guys. Is there any Association / organization doing residential then ?

Does ABC (www.abc.org) do residential for example?

How much do residential electricians make an hour? The gentleman told me residential costs more than commercial, this is why the Union does very little of it.

There must be a lot of $$$ involved, considering the lots of people who live in Miami and all the hotels, restaurants, bars, etc.

I wonder if residential is bigger than commercial (industrial).

The last time I was in Fla. my waiter was an electrician and said he makes more money waiting tables.

 

[Natan]

Illegals

It cannot be illegals if they get paid more than an IBEW JM……


[By the way, are you Australian? Ozzy….]

 

[Natan]

This is backwards. Union contractors 99% of the time bid large scale jobs where profit margins are larger to make them more competitive with companies that have a lower wage rate. On a $5k-$10k job paying a first year apprentice $12-$14 an hour plus full health benefits and retirement is not viable because you're bidding against a guy paying $10 an hour plus a 401k for a similar worker. Seems like a small difference, but it's huge.

What you say makes sense with what the guy said. Union contractors bid large INDUSTRIAL jobs, because if they bid small residential jobs, they would need to pay their JMs more and profits would be small or they would have a loss.

Does it make sense?

 

[Natan]

Snow Birds and 28 kinds of Third World .

Pete

What do you mean?

 

[Natan]

Chicago has to be the only city that the words "residential union electrician" are ever used consecutively.

Do you mean that residential union electricians practically do not exist and residential is only done by Non-Union electricians?

 

[Natan]

The last time I was in Fla. my waiter was an electrician and said he makes more money waiting tables.

That sucks. However, what kind of electrician? Did he have any experience?

A Union JM in South FL gets $27.5 / hour if I remember correctly and an apprentice starts at about $14/hour the first year.

 

[SVT CAMR]

That sucks. However, what kind of electrician? Did he have any experience?

A Union JM in South FL gets $27.5 / hour if I remember correctly and an apprentice starts at about $14/hour the first year.

My bad. When I made that statement I did not realize it was in the union section.

I have no idea was his status or experience was.

 

[eejack]

Do you mean that residential union electricians practically do not exist and residential is only done by Non-Union electricians?

Pretty much. It is tough for residential electricians to make a living, especially with Home Depot telling everyone they can do it themselves ( and puts all the material pricing out there in the open so marking it up is more difficult ) - I wager that really cuts into the profit margin - and union workers make too much to allow for any really profitability in that market.

 

[Southeast Power]

I have a question for you guys.

I spoke with the training coordinator of the MIAMI local (IBEW 349) and he mentioned that this local does very little residential. Who does residential in Miami then ?

You might be interested that electricians don't do not residential units in Miami.
It's more like very entry level piece workers, no licensed person within 100 miles.
High rises were 100% union until the early 80s, them the IEC and the ABC deluded our license laws and then everybody became paid as helpers.