[FAST LS1]

Let me first introduce myself, I'm Andy, an engineer over the process that manufactures, the 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" universal cone nuts for both 1 1/2" and 1 5/8" strut.

I hope the moderators will let me post as someone trying to help the community who use these products every day, and not as a plug for my particular brand. I will not mention names or brands, and in my last post, had various vendor's strut nuts in hopes of hearing what you guys like to use everyday even though most were not our products.

I'm currently working to improve the production process with the manufacturer, and one of the first peices of information I must gather is the "voice of the customer". What better place than a forum full of customers who handle these products every day?

Of course you don't have to read any further, but I'd ask that you help me help you.
Help me Help you, lol Jerry Mcguire.
I'd appriciate your input into what you expect of this product when you purchase it and install it in the field.

Do you expect the part to be:
1) Tapped?
2) Have the cone attached?
3) Fit both 1 1/2 and 1 5/8 strut?
4) Have "teeth" to bite into the strut for vertical applications and not slip?
(These all seem like given's to me, but I have to ask)

Other questions are more specific.

5) If a cone nut is available locally, do you choose it over a spring nut?

6) If you've used both a spring and a cone nut, do you prefer a cone nut over a spring nut due to ease of installation, no tangling, no spring poking thru the slots in the strut, no tipping, Or do you prefer the spring nut?

7) Do the features of a cone nut outweigh the price difference between a spring nut?

8) Is price a major deciding factor in comparison to a spring nut?

9) Are you upset if the cone detatches from the nut during installation?

10) Do you want the part plated with the lower corrosion resistant EG coating, or the higher corrosion resistant Gold coating?

11) If there's something you like about the cone nut vs any other strut nut (spring, regular etc), what would it be?

12) If there's something you do not like about the cone nut vs any other strut nut (spring, regular etc), what would it be?

Thanks for any input in advance!

 

[Ute]

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uhm, It is very good !

 

[JohnJ0906]

Never used a cone nut before, sorry.

 

[Speedy Petey]

All I will ask is that you do not start a bunch of new threads over this. I think you should have made this post in the other thread you started, but I'll leave both of them for now, unless you want me to merge them.

 

[Mountain Electrician]

Never used a cone nut before, but I would if I had free samples! :thumbsup:

 

[gilbequick]

Never used one either, I always use spring nuts. How do those work? Does the cone go through the front of the hole in the strut with the nut on the inside? If this works like I think it might, it'd be a heck of a lot easier to use than a spring nut.

 

[FAST LS1]

Never used a cone nut before, but I would if I had free samples! :thumbsup:

I've asked for sample boxes of ~20 nuts since it seems many people have never used a cone nut, especially a universal cone nut.

If I can get samples, what size would you want, 1/4", 3/8", or 1/2"?

 

[randomkiller]

I've asked for sample boxes of ~20 nuts since it seems many people have never used a cone nut, especially a universal cone nut.

If I can get samples, what size would you want, 1/4", 3/8", or 1/2"?

3/8" for me

 

[Trimix-leccy]

10mm for me

Postage to UK may be a little prohibitive though. Over here it is springs or no springs....or springs and a pair of side cutters:laughing:

 

[Mountain Electrician]

3/8" for me as well

 

[okeefe]

Never seen a cone nut! I use spring nuts, but I can try something diffrent. The only benfit I see is that regular spring nuts get tangle up with each other and I don't have patience to untangle the springs, I just want to grab a nut and install it.

 

[wire_twister]

Cones RULE for all the reasons stated above. I use them plated, unplated, red, yellow,blue, or green, any way I can get them. They beat spring nuts all around IMHO.

 

[Joefixit2]

Do you expect the part to be:
1) Tapped? Yes, it would be useless otherwise
2) Have the cone attached? Yes
3) Fit both 1 1/2 and 1 5/8 strut? Yes 4) Have "teeth" to bite into the strut for vertical applications and not slip? would be nice
(These all seem like given's to me, but I have to ask)

Other questions are more specific.

5) If a cone nut is available locally, do you choose it over a spring nut? yes

6) If you've used both a spring and a cone nut, do you prefer a cone nut over a spring nut due to ease of installation, no tangling, no spring poking thru the slots in the strut, no tipping, Or do you prefer the spring nut?
cone nut
7) Do the features of a cone nut outweigh the price difference between a spring nut?
yes

8) Is price a major deciding factor in comparison to a spring nut?
no

9) Are you upset if the cone detatches from the nut during installation?
yes

10) Do you want the part plated with the lower corrosion resistant EG coating, or the higher corrosion resistant Gold coating?

couldn't care less about the plating

11) If there's something you like about the cone nut vs any other strut nut (spring, regular etc), what would it be? ease/speed of use

12) If there's something you do not like about the cone nut vs any other strut nut (spring, regular etc), what would it be?

Thanks for any input in advance!

there you have it

 

[goose134]

Cone nuts are perfect for 7/8 strut. Springs must be cut and can be a bit of a pain. Coating doesn't really matter in most applications. I agree with many of the answers posted already. Tapped nuts, attached cones, grab teeth would be nice but not necessary. I will say that I've used the plastic and the spring steel cone nuts and prefer the plastic. The spring steel doesn't have quite enough give to make installation any easier.

I've never really thought about my preference, but honestly, I DO kind of prefer the cone nuts.

 

[RUSSIAN]

IMHO cone nuts are the way to go. but I have to use what is ordered and sometimes we get spring nuts on the job.

 

[philip657]

did someone say free ? sorry i mean samples:thumbup:

 

[FAST LS1]

I've been given approval to send out boxes of ten sample nuts to those in the US who have replied to this thread. I'm sorry I will not be able to ship outside of the US to those of you who are across the pond. I will also try to get some of the other posters from the initial thread who had not used the cone nuts, as I have two hundred sample nuts. All nuts will be 3/8" with the standard blue cone and GoldGalv coating. These nuts will have to be shipped back to me from the warehouse, so until I have them in hand I don't know when you will receive them. Once I have them, they will ship to you in a few days, but pulling them back from the warehouse may take a week or two to process the internal paperwork.

I'll PM everyone individually in the next day to get the name and address of where you would like the nuts shipped. :thumbsup:

 

[MechanicalDVR]

Do you expect the part to be:
1) Tapped? YES
2) Have the cone attached? YES
3) Fit both 1 1/2 and 1 5/8 strut? YES
4) Have "teeth" to bite into the strut for vertical applications and not slip? YES
(These all seem like given's to me, but I have to ask)

Other questions are more specific.

5) If a cone nut is available locally, do you choose it over a spring nut? Always

6) If you've used both a spring and a cone nut, do you prefer a cone nut over a spring nut due to ease of installation, no tangling, no spring poking thru the slots in the strut, no tipping, Or do you prefer the spring nut?
Cones are the way to go.
7) Do the features of a cone nut outweigh the price difference between a spring nut?
It isn't coming out of my pocket.
8) Is price a major deciding factor in comparison to a spring nut?
Never
9) Are you upset if the cone detatches from the nut during installation?
Hell yes
10) Do you want the part plated with the lower corrosion resistant EG coating, or the higher corrosion resistant Gold coating?
Gold is better
11) If there's something you like about the cone nut vs any other strut nut (spring, regular etc), what would it be?
They can be used universally for more than one application
12) If there's something you do not like about the cone nut vs any other strut nut (spring, regular etc), what would it be?
If the plastic is too brittle it chips off when inserting them and then sometimes won't stay in place easily.

 

[Mountain Electrician]

I've been given approval to send out boxes of ten sample nuts to those in the US who have replied to this thread. I'm sorry I will not be able to ship outside of the US to those of you who are across the pond. I will also try to get some of the other posters from the initial thread who had not used the cone nuts, as I have two hundred sample nuts. All nuts will be 3/8" with the standard blue cone and GoldGalv coating. These nuts will have to be shipped back to me from the warehouse, so until I have them in hand I don't know when you will receive them. Once I have them, they will ship to you in a few days, but pulling them back from the warehouse may take a week or two to process the internal paperwork.

I'll PM everyone individually in the next day to get the name and address of where you would like the nuts shipped. :thumbsup:

Great!! looking forward to it. :thumbsup:

 

[FAST LS1]

PM's have been sent to all the members below. Those that have responded and can accept the cone nuts, I will highlight in green. If anyone contacted opt's not to get the nuts I will highlight them in red, and contact the next person who replied in the previous thread.

1) Ute
2) JohnJ0906
3) Speedy Petey
4) Mountain Electrician
5) gilbequick
6) randomkiller
7) okeefe
8) wire_twister
9) Joefixit2
10) goose134
11) RUSSIAN
12) Philip657
13) MechanicalDVR
14) BryanMP
15) amptech
16) Ieland
17) micromind
18) Highwirey
19) jrclen
20) Kay Jay
21) bobelectric
22) Joe Momma