Why do non-union electricians troll this forum?
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This very thread could be considered trolling, and I'm not even sure you aren't.
If you want to claim all unions are great, that's just as asinine as claiming all unions are terrible. The reality, like everything, is often somewhere in the middle. Both sides get worked up because they often refuse to admit that.
If you want to claim all unions are great, that's just as asinine as claiming all unions are terrible. The reality, like everything, is often somewhere in the middle. Both sides get worked up because they often refuse to admit that.
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I'm not trolling at all. Just skim through the threads in here. There's always that "one guy" in most threads just threadcrapping, smack talking unions.
It's like going to a gun forum spouting gun control measures.
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The title does not say PRO UNION, it says Union
Which leaves it open to anyone with an opinion, pro, con or indifferent.
Which leaves it open to anyone with an opinion, pro, con or indifferent.
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I'm against public sector unions, not private sector, I'm all in favor of high wages.
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First I am a union electrician and have worked both sides of the isle, BUT there is always one guy here bashing open shops and there is always an open shop guy bashing union. It goes both ways, it is what it is, This is an OPEN forum.
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. I'll agree with you on the benefits and fair wages part ( although , plenty of open shops offer both ) . The " camaraderie " is certainly lacking in my local , and some members will throw others under the bus in a heartbeat , to help themselves to stay working longer ? Don't see much camaraderie in that ? It's a select group luckily , but that technique of self preservation spreads like a fungus , unfortunately .ScholzPDX said:
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In the broader perspective , it's human nature to pull ones self up by pulling others down
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maybe we need some new testament turn the other cheek trolls....?:laughing:~CS~
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I don't have an issue with people not wanting to be affiliated with a Union. In many cases I may not understand the logic behind it, but then again, I also don't understand the logic in scat p0rn either.
I realize there are plenty of open shop guys that work hard and really know their stuff. Same with the union side. That's great. But when a select few open shop guys come in and just spew vitriol, that gets pretty ridiculous pretty quick. Some come on here and claim that the union guys are on here bashing them all the time. Sorry, but I rarely see that. Usually it's someone starting a legitimate discussion on a union topic, and then an anti-union guy will come in and start sh!t, and everyone gets drawn into a stupid squabble. There's a few union trolls here too, of course, but most of the rest of us try not to provoke anything.
Why is that? Because we are well aware that public opinion is against us, that if we go and pull dumb thug sh!t that it will likely be thrown in our face, and that if we go around inciting or provoking non-union guys it counters our own interests to begin with. Yeah there's a few bad apples that do it anyway, but by and large most of us try to be decent and when confronted with some d!ck troll spreading misinformation, then we get defensive about it. So what?
I realize there are plenty of open shop guys that work hard and really know their stuff. Same with the union side. That's great. But when a select few open shop guys come in and just spew vitriol, that gets pretty ridiculous pretty quick. Some come on here and claim that the union guys are on here bashing them all the time. Sorry, but I rarely see that. Usually it's someone starting a legitimate discussion on a union topic, and then an anti-union guy will come in and start sh!t, and everyone gets drawn into a stupid squabble. There's a few union trolls here too, of course, but most of the rest of us try not to provoke anything.
Why is that? Because we are well aware that public opinion is against us, that if we go and pull dumb thug sh!t that it will likely be thrown in our face, and that if we go around inciting or provoking non-union guys it counters our own interests to begin with. Yeah there's a few bad apples that do it anyway, but by and large most of us try to be decent and when confronted with some d!ck troll spreading misinformation, then we get defensive about it. So what?
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Funny, this is an electrical contractor's forum and I rarely see a thread started by contractors about the pros and cons of being signatory. Maybe that's because we are self made and don't depend on others for benefits, a fair wage or camaraderie.
I must say chicken, I am growing tired of that statement. Having a different opinion is not " pulling one self up by pulling others down "!In the broader perspective , it's human nature to pull ones self up by pulling others down
If you doubt me, post your work here
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Very condescending and disrespectful. I thought you were better than that!
But, there is no place for name calling, and yes guilty as charged! It only hurts our trade. We know you are non Union, show some respect for other peoples' choices.
It's an open forum, and last I checked a free country! Well sort of. :laughing:
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