[ponyboy]

Some stuff I was working on today and other random stuff. There was a thread recently about transformer hookups so I included a picture of a typical 75 install for us.

 

[btharmy]

What's with the empty conduits stubbed up under the panels?

 

[Rochsolid]

Goo looking work pony!

 

[ponyboy]

What's with the empty conduits stubbed up under the panels?

Just spares, no purpose. We had 700' of floor cut up six months ago the length of the building. That only happens once in a lifetime so we put spares in going to and from any imaginable location.

 

[union347sparky]

I like it. All the right name brand. So I take it the emt on the floor is not in a high foot traffic area?

 

[MTW]

Where's piperunner to tell us that you can't use a hard raceway directly into a transformer?

 

[ponyboy]

I like it. All the right name brand. So I take it the emt on the floor is not in a high foot traffic area?

Correct, it's between two lines of gravity conveyor that isn't in place yet. It'll be virtually inaccessible once the line is running

 

[bml215]

Looks good.

 

[MHElectric]

Looks good ponyboy, Ive run out of thanks. :thumbsup:

I like it. All the right name brand. So I take it the emt on the floor is not in a high foot traffic area?

That my first thought as well. I hardly ever run pipe working for myself, but in the past, I only remember being allowed to run EMT on the ground in mechanical rooms. We had some of those security gates that you walk through (like in the front of retail stores and such) that issues like this would come up on.

 

[ponyboy]

This section will be inaccessible to foot traffic and fork trucks but it's pretty common for us to run pipes on the floor. Sometimes it can't be avoided. If I'm even a little doubtful about it I'll do it and rigid. GRC on 7/8" strut isn't going to give to the occasional dumb shít that steps on it

 

[Pete m.]

What is that copper pipe above the gear? And, how far above the gear is it?

Pete

 

[MHElectric]

This section will be inaccessible to foot traffic and fork trucks but it's pretty common for us to run pipes on the floor. Sometimes it can't be avoided. If I'm even a little doubtful about it I'll do it and rigid. GRC on 7/8" strut isn't going to give to the occasional dumb shít that steps on it

Oh believe me, unless its in a real high traffic area with fork lifts and all, EMT will be perfectly fine on the ground. I have no problems with that at all. In fact, wiremold is another fine product to use on the ground if you can get away with it.

Its the AHJ coming in and using the "susceptible physical damage" card that's the problem, even if its a long shot. Kinda hard to argue this one, cause its a grey area, and it could be interpreted by the AHJ completely differently than you and I.

 

[Pete m.]

Oh believe me, unless its in a real high traffic area with fork lifts and all, EMT will be perfectly fine on the ground. I have no problems with that at all. In fact, wiremold is another fine product to use on the ground if you can get away with it.

Its the AHJ coming in and using the "susceptible physical damage" card that's the problem, even if its a long shot. Kinda hard to argue this one, cause its a grey area, and it could be interpreted by the AHJ completely differently than you and I.

I know that a contractors view and the inspectors view are frequently different but when I get asked about the "physical damage" thing I usually reply: "If you think it is subject to damage I probably will too."

Pete

 

[ablyss]

Very clean and professional looking. Top notch. :thumbsup:

 

[ponyboy]

What is that copper pipe above the gear? And, how far above the gear is it? Pete

3" air line. Yeah it runs under the mezzanine and goes to ceiling on a common rack. It might be a little less than 6' above the gear but hey, no harm no foul

 

[ponyboy]

Its the AHJ coming in and using the "susceptible physical damage" card that's the problem, even if its a long shot.

We only have our new serviced inspected, other than that we govern ourselves haha

 

[MHElectric]

I know that a contractors view and the inspectors view are frequently different but when I get asked about the "physical damage" thing I usually reply: "If you think it is subject to damage I probably will too."

Pete

Common sense would probably cover 80-90% of the times when this would come up during an inspection. But I think the main problem with it would be how widely the contractors and the inspectors opinion could vary in this sort of situation.

Its a lot less clear cut than some issues could be. I think that mechanical rooms, store front security gates, and similar areas should not have any problems. Straight down the middle of an aisle in the grocery store, on the other hand...

 

[Pete m.]

3" air line. Yeah it runs under the mezzanine and goes to ceiling on a common rack. It might be a little less than 6' above the gear but hey, no harm no foul

I would have red tagged your sorry ass.:laughing::jester:

Truth be known, I am a prick when it comes to working or dedicated space.

Pete

 

[Pete m.]

Common sense would probably cover 80-90% of the times when this would come up during an inspection. But I think the main problem with it would be how widely the contractors and the inspectors opinion could vary in this sort of situation.

Its a lot less clear cut than some issues could be. I think that mechanical rooms, store front security gates, and similar areas should not have any problems. Straight down the middle of an aisle in the grocery store, on the other hand...

I get what you are saying and I understand that different inspectors and areas are sometimes difficult to deal with.

At least in my little "slice of heaven" I would gladly come to the site to discuss the issue and would prefer to rather than make the decision once the work is completed.

Pete

 

[ponyboy]

Truth be known, I am a prick when it comes to working or dedicated space.

Honestly I am too but I've always talked about how closely we work with the plumbers/fitters and this is a good example of me not busting balls over one pipe that's never gonna be in the way. I'm working on my people skills