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I got a call from a customer whom I rewired her 3 bedroom house for a while back. She had hired a PV company to come install panels on her roof, and as soon as the job finished she started having issues with the afci's in the panel tripping randomly and consistently. The afci's have not given trouble in the past. She calls the PV company about it , they send the "electrician" back to the house to troubleshoot the problem. Solution= removed the afci breakers and substituted in standard breakers. So she calls me and tells me what has transpired. I call the pv company and talk to the "electrician" who tells me it is just a test for a week or so to see if the system will trip standard breakers. WTF? How about getting up on that roof and discovering where your connections are loose, or which microinverter is causing the effect, or perhaps are all of them in union causing this problem. The reply is " your afci's are not compatable with our panels". My reply is "our afci's are mandatory, and your panels are not, so if you want to collect your money, I suggest you fix your problem, because the city inspector will take a really dim view of you pulling the breakers , since they hate all the pv pirates that now flood our city. I feel for this guy, I kinda feel he is right, it is probably a defect in the afci's that is really at the heart of the problem, but I feel pulling them out is no solution. What ye say?
 

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read the '11 change in 690.11 Mac


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Well, Steve of the future, we are on 2008 still. But them arc's were not meant to be removed as per 08 .

I have seen pv guys try to bolt on lugs to meter neutral busbars with self tapping sheet metal screws on a dozen or more jobs I came across now. I bet this is one of those wonders, but no trip back to site yet. I want money , no I want lots and lots of money before I go there to restore the place.
 
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How did you come to the conclusion that the AFCI's were the issue when they were working fine until the solar panels? I understand that you feel for the guy but still, the solar installation caused this issue, not bad AFCI breakers.

Out of curiosity, what brand panel are we talking about here?
Well Mag, put an afci in a panel without supplying power to that panel from any source and I bet the afci's will still trip. That is stupid and funny but it is about how well they have worked in the world so far. (yea soon somebody is going to say they put in thousands and never had one problem yet, but those guys who say that crap are just lier's, they don't realize this isn't Mike Holt, we know b.s. here when we see it....) I don't know what the real problem is, I am sure it is something the pv jockey's did. Two years ago they were all changing tires for a living, now they are Photovoltaic Energy Experts. However AFCI's are no angels either.
 

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why didn't you do the solar?
I don't do the no money down and no cost out of pocket to the customer for PV installs gig. That is the type of system she got, she will purchase sunlight power from her solar panel company now that she has their free panels up on her rooftop.
 

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I am thinking about installing PV's in HI. Seems like an easy gig.
It truly is, but you missed the boat. Sales for the last three months statewide are down something like 80% cause suddenly the poco's are no longer playing ball. You put in an application to the power company to feed the grid and you might get an ok to proceed if you have 6 months to wait or so.
 

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Hey Mac are the solar panels feeding through the main panel bus bar or are is it tied in load side of the meter..?
I don't know, I have not been there for a year at least. They put it in this week.
 
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