I think I've posted this issue before, maybe here, but can't find it. We install EV charging, mainly, for a few years now, and this has come up a couple of times, different jurisdictions. Today's problem case:
Existing city house (overhead service, crosses above garage), existing detached garage (small "shop" attached to back), like usual fed by OLD 15-amp underground from house (we would kill this).
To run a new feeder from house, very high degree of difficulty, partly due to complicated finished basement, but mainly: underground, due to paving, cement/stone sidewalks, deck/patio, and very highly developed landscaping; overhead, due to no good path -- odd main building layout, numerous ornamental trees (some large).
The utility lines run on poles along the lot line about 10' behind the garage.
I've put in a request to the utility company for a new separate service, 150 amps, with a second meter, to the detached garage. From an installation point of view it is by far the simplest approach. I believe POCO requirements are that a second service is only allowed if it's designated "commercial"; the customer has no problem with that, or with the minimum monthly fees.
One problem with the POCO question is that they're apparently even more short-handed in the office than usual, with 1-hr waits on hold on the ESI line being common, and Engineering is now known as "where jobs go to die." Nonetheless, I anticipate that at some point the conversation will commence. Meanwhile, I'm looking at the NEC and the POCO handbook, and see nothing that specifically prohibits two separate services to separate buildings on one property. It seems viable to me, although I imagine they may require signage at each meter indicating locations of service disconnects on the property. No big deal.
Thoughts, comments, suggestions, appreciated. THX.
Existing city house (overhead service, crosses above garage), existing detached garage (small "shop" attached to back), like usual fed by OLD 15-amp underground from house (we would kill this).
To run a new feeder from house, very high degree of difficulty, partly due to complicated finished basement, but mainly: underground, due to paving, cement/stone sidewalks, deck/patio, and very highly developed landscaping; overhead, due to no good path -- odd main building layout, numerous ornamental trees (some large).
The utility lines run on poles along the lot line about 10' behind the garage.
I've put in a request to the utility company for a new separate service, 150 amps, with a second meter, to the detached garage. From an installation point of view it is by far the simplest approach. I believe POCO requirements are that a second service is only allowed if it's designated "commercial"; the customer has no problem with that, or with the minimum monthly fees.
One problem with the POCO question is that they're apparently even more short-handed in the office than usual, with 1-hr waits on hold on the ESI line being common, and Engineering is now known as "where jobs go to die." Nonetheless, I anticipate that at some point the conversation will commence. Meanwhile, I'm looking at the NEC and the POCO handbook, and see nothing that specifically prohibits two separate services to separate buildings on one property. It seems viable to me, although I imagine they may require signage at each meter indicating locations of service disconnects on the property. No big deal.
Thoughts, comments, suggestions, appreciated. THX.
