Should be no problem for a JW.

 

What I would do in this situation is feed the switch, connect the travelers, switch the light. Feed the other switch and switch the fan.

Works every time.

 

When you signed up you should have been asked about your electrical experiance. This site is for pros only. There is a DIY site and you will get a post from the mods tell you this and the tread will be closed.

 

He says he's a jman maybe he just never wired a 3way before?

 

I have wired up for a ceiling fan to be on a three way swtich on the light and have a completely seperate switch for the fan. I have power running into my first box where both switches will be. That being said. I have 14.2 wire running my power, Then I have 14.3 running to my fixture, and a completely seperate 14.3 running from the box to the other box where the 2nd 3 way switch will be. I was hoping somebody can help me figure out how to connect which wires to which switches to make this work.

Are you really a licensed electrician?

 

He never said he was. His profile says journeyman. I don't think this site has any license requirements yet. He says he's a jman I don't think Kansas has a jman card.

 

I went to a technical college in northwest kansas. I work mainly on assisted living complexes where we do not wire this way. We got a job in an apartment complex and this is how they requested this done. I've wired 3 ways but never a fan on a seperate switch.

 

I went to a technical college in northwest kansas. I work mainly on assisted living complexes where we do not wire this way. We got a job in an apartment complex and this is how they requested this done. I've wired 3 ways but never a fan on a seperate switch.

Someone may have a diagram but I can try. Pig tail the incoming black, one of these wires goes to your fan switch, then wire the black of the 14/3 Wire going to the fan to the fan switch. Fan is done. Now wire the other pig tail to white of the 14/3 going to the other box, reidentify it black on both ends. At other switch box land this white wire to the copper or black screw on the switch(two will be silver, one will be black or copper) land the other two(black and red) wires to the switch. At you first box wire these two wires to the switches silver screws. Land the red wire from the fan box to the black or copper screw. Now if you are on the 2011 NEC you need a neutral in the 2nd switch box. So 14/3 won't work, you'll need 14/4

 

I dead ended two 3 ways friday doing the exact same thing.

 

Its actually a very difficult thing to do for the first time. Once I get it wired up for the first time, it will be a breeze, just like everything else a person wires up.

 

Wire it just like you would any other fan/light, only take one of your switchlegs off the 3-way.

 

Required as of 2011 NEC, as previously stated.

What article states you need neutral in one of the boxes? What if the feed was brought to the fixture. I'm not saying it's not there just never knew

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404.2(c).

 

I never noticed the change and had the new code book since day one. I wonder what other big changes i don't know of so if there is a simple three way set up with two boxes the neutral must be in both boxes regardless? Waste of wire !

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I think that's the biggest change, 2011 shuffled a lot of things around but I think that was the biggest change.

 

We have talked about that change for since day one. I believe it has to do with dimmers , timers and occupancy sensors. They used to rely on the EGC for the electronics but since they are becoming so popular they decide to change this and requires the neutral at the switch.. There are a few exceptions.

 

, Then I have 14.3 running to my fixture, and a completely seperate 14.3 running from the box to the other box where the 2nd 3 way switch will be.

Is the box the first switch box or the ceiling box?

 

Okay, so is there a better, or easier way to wire this up?

 

3-way you need 2 wires that go from switch to switch,you feed one switch and the other switch gets the switch leg to light. Obviously light needs neutral and with the new code so does each box.

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the box would be the first switch box

 

the box would be the first switch box

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You will only have the light on the 3 way but that is generally what you want. There is usualy no reason to 3way the fan.

From the 1st sw box, send power to the 2nd sw box on the black (common terminal on the switch). Use the red/white as travelers.

In the first sw box, the red and black to the fixture will obviously be your sw legs. Use the red for the light (attach to the common terminal) and the black for the fan (to a sp sw)



make up.

First box, all blacks (except fan switch leg) tied together with one pigtail for sp fan switch. All whites (except 3 wire to 2nd sw box) tied together.

Black pigtail and black fan switch leg to sp switch. Red from ceiling box to 3way common terminal of 3W sw. Red and white from 2nd sw box 3 wire to traveler terminals.

2nd sw box, black common terminals, red/white traveler terminals

 

You realize there is more than one way to do this and it all depends on whether you are using raceways or cables and where each run originates/terminates. A logic type of drawing will look the same no matter how you route conductors/cables.

 

You realize there is more than one way to do this and it all depends on whether you are using raceways or cables and where each run originates/terminates. A logic type of drawing will look the same no matter how you route conductors/cables.

Dang, you beat me to it..... Well, I like mine better anyways!