Dump......

 

I assume the last panel is for the fire department to control the zones for the water or pumps? Not sure? Please explain.

It controls the smoke removal fans. If it were the fire pumps it would be a much larger enclosure and larger conductors too.

 

Must be Lowes since they use those aluminum enclosures and Square D gear for everything.

 

Must be Lowes

I don't remember.

 

I see, it's for ventilation control.

 

These are fire resistant cables running from the control panel out to the fans, I think they are two hour rated.

I took a scrap piece of one of the conductors and heated it with a plumbing torch for about 10 minutes during break one day and it looked fine.

Now the main Fire Panel area.

 

Now the main Fire Panel area.

What are those keyed white things labeled RTU above the fire extingishur?

 

Send Cash

 

In the first picture I see a compressor. Is this a dry system?

-John

 

In the first picture I see a compressor. Is this a dry system?

I think this store had 6 risers with two of them being dry systems for some outdoor areas.

 

Typically, how many years of life can you get from a smoke detector on that type of system?

 

That is a hard one to answer, I have seen some older then me still working and have seen some 3 days old quit and die out. Its just luck of the draw in my opinion, but for the most part as long as no water or other kinds of external damage occur they should last you a long time.

 

For as much money as that control panel surely cost you'd think they could've used engraved labels rather than a tacky labeler and Sharpie. :laughing:

 

For as much money as that control panel surely cost you'd think they could've used engraved labels rather than a tacky labeler and Sharpie. :rolleyes::laughing:[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

I never knew these places had smoke exhaust fans.. really great idea.. but then the FD doesn't get to cut holes in the roof anymore.. poor guys.. :laughing:

 

FD doesn't get to cut holes in the roof anymore.. poor guys.. :laughing:

They're to busy texting.:laughing:

 

are those cables just like a special listed mc cable or are they mi cable?

 

I see RI color coding but a Mass. phone number on the FACP. :blink:

 

How much does that MI cable go for a foot?

 

Why the new panel? Did I miss something there?

 

So after testing a ton of points, and finding the tamper and flows out in various areas around the store which can be hard to find. I find this in the panels history

Fire-Lite says that means the processor is having issues and the panel must be replaced.

Well two days later I am back with a new panel, I open the box when I get there and find the new panel had been damaged in transit. The locked door came all the way off, the PC board mounts were broken.

Now waiting for another panel

Here I am using a 2 gang blank to show out of square it is

Here the screw holding the board to the mount was broken right off.

 

Well two days later I am back with a new panel, I open the box when I get there and find the new panel had been damaged in transit. The locked door came all the way off, the PC board mounts were broken.

Now waiting for another panel

UPS must have got your package and one of B4T's packages of light bulbs confused and beat the crap out of the wrong one. :laughing: :laughing:

 

Why put all of the NAC panels in one spot?

Some of those horn/strobe runs must be pretty long. We usually try to place the NAC panels closer to the devices they are powering and just run the communication link from panel to panel rather than having to pull multiple horn circuits all the way to the FACP.

 

Why put all of the NAC panels in one spot?

It is how they want it., in this store there is another group of four in rear. One of the NACs at the front is for duct detector power.

I did one of these stores from the ground up and because of voltage drop in such long runs each NAC circuit only powers 2 to 4 horn strobes. The one I did had 13 NACs for horn strobes, 8 at the front, 7 at the rear and another NAC for duct detector power.

 

All the terminal strips pop off for an easy swap.. then all you have left is (8) hours of programming..

Why not change just the board..

 

All the terminal strips pop off for an easy swap..

Why not change just the board..

I wish, I really do.

They upgraded to a better panel and it is not the same size. The new enclosure is deeper because display and keyboard stick out more.

then all you have left is (8) hours of programming..

They wanted me to take the programing down on paper and re-enter it all

Since I am waiting for another panel I have been setting up my laptop to pull the programing out of the old panel and put it in the new.

 

Why oh why fire light???

That's a lot of remote duct smoke indicators....geez....

 

What's wrong with the panel you're replacing?

 

I am doing this work for a large security company that has their own help desk for the techs in the field.

I call them up and start telling them about the test and they should be able to see each alarm or trouble I caused while testing. We quickly figured out he only got about 1/3 of the things he should have.

I mention to him I saw 'check sum error' on the display, instantly he shouts "CRAP!"

I ask, Is that a good crap or a bad crap?

He says bad and tells me to call Fire-Lite tech support about it, as soon as I say 'check sum error' he says replace the panel.

http://www.tech-faq.com/checksum-error.html

 

Are we at train wreck status yet? :thumbup:

 

Nope.

 

Do you have to post a fire watch (at Lowes :laughing when the panel is totally down when you replace it?

 

Most likely yes. And rightfully so.

Why do you laugh? He's most likely making good money working at the Lowes store replacing the FACP.

 

Ps tools is a downloadable program for fire lite panels. Very user friendly.
That store looks as bad as the one in warwick Ri must have about 18 boosters in the front lobby.. the good thing about fire lite is availableness of parts so why not go to adi and get a new panel looks like a 9600... I'm kind of suprised they haven't gone with Bosch crap across the board Target and wally workday do, and I've seen them in a few shaws.

 

Ps tools is a downloadable program for fire lite panels. Very user friendly.

Great to hear, I am mostly concerned with my home brew cable. I hope the panel and PC connect.

That store looks as bad as the one in warwick Ri must have about 18 boosters in the front lobby.

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We probably did that one as well.

the good thing about fire lite is availableness of parts so why not go to adi and get a new panel looks like a 9600..

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It is but we don't supply parts on these calls.

I'm kind of suprised they haven't gone with Bosch crap across the board Target and wally workday do, and I've seen them in a few shaws.

I do not like Bosch either If I was spending a lot of time with the Bosch panels I would keep a keypad in the truck to add at the panel for troubleshooting.

 

That is what I hope to do. I went to the fire lite web site and they let you down load the software for doing it.

The panel is designed to be connected to the computer via RS-232 and a serial port.

My lap top does not have a serial port so I had to get a USB to serial port adapter and it may not work with the panel.

What did ADT tech support say about this???

 

I have no idea as that is not who I was working for.

 

I have no idea as that is not who I was working for.

Darn!!!...lol

 

I never knew these places had smoke exhaust fans.. really great idea.. but then the FD doesn't get to cut holes in the roof anymore.. poor guys.. :laughing:

They still will. Lol