In new Jersey , an electrician with around 15 years experience, who has own tools,is responsible for a work van"takes van home" and helper " does not take helper home lol" , working in a company that does maintenance for supermarkets , and is basically told,not asked, after work hours to go on a emergency call few times a week, and can easily perform these tasks. Should be making no less than how much per hour..... Company charges supermarket travel time and over 160 hr for mechanic
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I’m not in NJ, so I have no idea what the cost of living is. Average for a journeyman in NJ is $26 an hour. But you said they charge $160, is that the helper too?
Does it really matter what the charge out rate is?
That rate is what his employer has calculated to make a profit.
the employees do not share the liabilities of the company.
The question is, what is a fair wage to compensate for the skill and responsibilities required to do the job.
A good service electrician is worth top dollar in any market.
That rate is what his employer has calculated to make a profit.
the employees do not share the liabilities of the company.
The question is, what is a fair wage to compensate for the skill and responsibilities required to do the job.
A good service electrician is worth top dollar in any market.
Your company most likely has a contract with the supermarket. All hourly bill rates are predetermined.
Service electricians in NJ make 25-30$ per hour. Non Union. The Job market is pretty tight right now so, I wouldn't be surprised to see $30-35.
Electricians in south jersey make the least....particularly at the shore points. For some reason the salt air makes people not realize they are losing money.
Service electricians in NJ make 25-30$ per hour. Non Union. The Job market is pretty tight right now so, I wouldn't be surprised to see $30-35.
Electricians in south jersey make the least....particularly at the shore points. For some reason the salt air makes people not realize they are losing money.
A low JW rate is $52 an hour. A little higher in north Jersey. Add in the benifits, and the items that the contractor sees, like workers comp, and the rate is about $100 an hour.
Worst thing you can do is compare your pay with company rates. I did that early in my career when I was making $2.60/hr. and bill out rates were $55/hr. I thought 20x what they pay ME!!! Years later when I owned a business I found out why.
I understand the cost of running a business but they bill out every single hour , travel time, and gas. And all material They don't take care of their vans, and there's no tools except for the ones the workers have. 35 to $40 an hour for me should leave them plenty of room for profit. The big problem is I just started working here a few months ago. I'm making less than 28 an hour they're already giving me a van, and I have a feeling that I'm going to be getting calls all the time after hours like I'm on call 24/7. If the money is worth my time I have no problem doing it but my problem has always been that I'm not making enough to deal with all the extracellular activities
I worked in Newburgh NY 3 years ago and made $28 / hr. doing all machine repair, PLC programming, and Motion control and much more. I was top of my field and that was all the area paid, moved now 6 figures. You have to chase the money or be happy.
Once when I was in lower management I wanted to get a tech a raise from $10/hr to $12/hr. After the first no we can't afford it from the branch manager I asked him to lunch.
While at lunch I brought up the subject again. I broke out a paper and pen and started writing things down like rent, car payment, electric, food, etc etc. Then I asked the BM what he thought a worker bee doing what we asked should be able to afford for these things.
As the list grew and the vision was a little clearer, I said something to the effect of we are asking the worker bee to go out and take care of our customers, looking presentable, and being of good mind. He cannot be of good mind if he can't afford to pay his bills. We can't afford for him to not be of good mind.
I got the money. (It was a long time ago).
While at lunch I brought up the subject again. I broke out a paper and pen and started writing things down like rent, car payment, electric, food, etc etc. Then I asked the BM what he thought a worker bee doing what we asked should be able to afford for these things.
As the list grew and the vision was a little clearer, I said something to the effect of we are asking the worker bee to go out and take care of our customers, looking presentable, and being of good mind. He cannot be of good mind if he can't afford to pay his bills. We can't afford for him to not be of good mind.
I got the money. (It was a long time ago).
It is tough to go ask for a raise. I've never been one to ask for a raise I've always been given a raise and when I thought I needed one didn't get it I'd quit.
I usually spend too long at the same pay rate. I was at 15 an hour for a really long time.
Then I was between 20 and 23 for a really long time
Now I got stuck at 25 to 27. Especially with this inflation going on it's not much money when you come home with 700 or $800 a week.
I usually spend too long at the same pay rate. I was at 15 an hour for a really long time.
Then I was between 20 and 23 for a really long time
Now I got stuck at 25 to 27. Especially with this inflation going on it's not much money when you come home with 700 or $800 a week.
Your in NYC it should be more. If you honestly think you are worth it you can ask for a raise.
you say you have only been with them a few months, so on your 6 month or 9 or one year go in and ask for a raise. When you do go in prepared with data to back it up. Number of time you came in on call. Number of times worked weekends. Times you made the company look good fixing something. You get the idea.
you say you have only been with them a few months, so on your 6 month or 9 or one year go in and ask for a raise. When you do go in prepared with data to back it up. Number of time you came in on call. Number of times worked weekends. Times you made the company look good fixing something. You get the idea.
So are you a licensed journeyman electrician? Are you a valuable employee? Do you make money for the company? Have you explored other companies? You make the company you work for as not 1st rate. Maybe elsewhere to a company that shares your values. Boomers are leaving the workforce in droves. There is a shortage of “good” electrical people. I always worked like I owned the company. But in the end left them all to go out on my own. Sometimes it’s the only solution.
You can do this, need to learn to do this. No it's not easy. Splatz's words are right on. Since I wear all the hats, I'm lucky if I can remember what I for breakfast. Some days I get home and have to think hard about where I went that day or what I did. That's before I have and IPA or two. So yes there is some psychology to this, when and where to talk.
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