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#1 ·
Can anybody with experience on this topic please clarify something for me.

Scenario is: a brand new in ground pool is going in. Everything non current carrying metal part gets bonded, reinforcing steel, light fixtures as per sec 68 of the CEC. Once everything is bonded. Where in the code does it say I have to run back to the main panel and bond there? Or can I simply attach to the lug on the pool pump and ride that feeder bond back to the panel? Although, it wouldn't be a #6, Everything would have the same equipotential.

Not talking about deck boxes here.

Please let me know your thoughts and drop the code rule for reference

Thanks
 
#2 ·
68-058 Bonding (see Appendix B)
1) The metal parts of the pool and of other non-electrical equipment associated with the pool, such
as piping, pool reinforcing steel, ladders, diving board supports, and fences within 1.5 m of the pool, shall be bonded together and to non-current-carrying metal parts of electrical equipment such as decorative-type pool luminaires and lighting equipment not located in a forming shell, forming shells, metal screens of shields for underwater speakers, conduit, junction boxes, and the like by a copper bonding conductor.
2) Pool reinforcing steel shall be bonded with a minimum of four connections equally spaced around the perimeter.
3) Notwithstanding Subrule 2), where reinforcing steel is encapsulated with a non-conductive compound, provisions shall be made for an alternative means to eliminate voltage gradients that would otherwise be provided by unencapsulated, bonded reinforcing steel.
4) Bonding conductors for pools shall be
a) not smaller than No. 6 AWG for permanently installed pools and for all in-ground pools; or
b) as required by Table 16 for all other pools.
5) Metal sheaths and raceways shall not be relied upon as the bonding medium, and a separate copper bonding conductor shall be used, except that a metal conduit between a forming shell and its associated junction box shall be permitted to be used as the bonding medium, provided that the forming shell and junction box are installed in the same structural section.
The bonding conductor from the junction box referred to in Rule 68-060 shall be run to the panelboard supplying pool electrical equipment and, if smaller than No. 6 AWG, shall be installed and mechanically protected in the same manner as the insulated circuit conductors or cable.
I don’t have much experience with in-ground pools, but the rule states it shall not be less than #6 bond. I would be running a #6 from the panel directly grounding the pool equipment.
 
#4 ·
I’m in Ontario, but I’ve done a lot of pools/pool shed. Run the bond from the shell into shed loop it through all your equipment related to the pool than land it in the pony panel. And use the feeder bond to carry it back. Only time I’ll run the #6 back is if the pool equipment is outside and there’s individual feeds running from the panel to equipment. But if there’s a sub panel being installed tie to that sucker
 
#9 ·
If you're adding new equipment 3m from a pool occupant there's going to be a minimal risk of an equipotential difference of different ground potentials. There's a minimal issue with the new equipment being a hazard. The bulletin only addresses an isolated change/addition, if you're altering/rewiring/touching other areas that's outside of the bulletin.
 
#11 ·
Only you and the local inspector can really say. If that's the level of concern you're looking at it might be worth looking at the whole pool and seeing what's deficient from the current rules vs then. It depends on the types of pumps how they interact with the water, but it's not a guarantee that a change will create a new problem or rather solve an existing one. All the bulletin addresses is how to replace/add things that wouldn't directly create its own hazard, there's no mention about if other hazards or issues are found from an existing build.