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Septic Tank Float Switch

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#1 ·
Hi there, first post but I've been on here a few times to get some answers.

I was wondering if anyone has any idea how to retro install a float switch into a septic tank that is already burried with only a 4 inch (I think I didn't measure I was just looking) circle access lid. The guy wants a way to know when it's full so he doesn't have to check. I don't have to wire in a pump because a truck comes to pump it out so what I was planning on doing was having the float switch control a light that would turn on when full. I'll probably go with a low voltage circuit. I don't even know if this is possible. I also don't know the depth of the tank at this moment.

Photos of what I have to work with are attached.
 

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#2 ·
There is few ways you can install the float switch but however you should able find the main tank opening that where majorty of tank float switch genrally be located.

but ya you can installed the float switch in that narrow 4 inch pipe but ya have to remove each time the tanker come and pump it out due most use 2 inch or larger hose to suck the crap out of the tank.

I dont have the specs with me a moment but one of the most common float switch they use same design on sump pump but much longer cord on it.
 
#3 ·
There is few ways you can install the float switch but however you should able find the main tank opening that where majorty of tank float switch genrally be located.

but ya you can installed the float switch in that narrow 4 inch pipe but ya have to remove each time the tanker come and pump it out due most use 2 inch or larger hose to suck the crap out of the tank.
By tank opening do you mean like a door hatch that's underground? I'd rather have something more permanently installed if I could do it doesn't have to be removed each time but if it comes to that I will.
 
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Tie that into the light
20ft cord should be long enough
Can always splice some SJ cord depending where you put the light

Actually that one may be normally closed but they have them in normally open as well.
I might go with this thanks.
This might be better
Yeah I'll see what other people have to say.

I might just have to do some digging then. Any idea on how deep those hatches are?

Thanks for the tip, I'm still not sure which float switch I'll be getting. This isn't a rush job it's just something he would like to have.

One of my former home have spectic tank and the latch is about 75 CM down so for your area it can be anywhere from half meter to a meter down depending on style of hatches is.
That's not too deep I guess. Hopefully I pick the right side though to start if I do for.
 
#17 · (Edited)
All of the alarms that I've installed have been low voltage. Typically the alarm mounts inside the house and is plugged into a standard 120V outlet. Wire is run to the tank and spliced into the float switch wire.
The Float is tied off below the upper tank level. The float must turn upside down to set off the alarm.
Float hanging down or floating on top = Open circuit
Float upside down = Closed circuit - setting off alarm

Without being there, I'm not sure what you can install in the tank to tie the float off to.
 
#22 ·
State of the art, 20 years ago.

The plumber is the one who told him an electrician has to hook it up.
Here, the septic installers, not plumbers set the float hights and the run time(time dosing), electricians wire them.

Floats have to have a pivot point to turn, otherwise they just lay sideways. So using the pipe is not going to work. You need to find the cover. Use a long thin rod to probe for it. Here's a picture to show you the correct setup. Trust me, I've done a lot of these.
 

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#20 ·
Okay I'm starting to get an idea here. I think drilling through the lid is probably the best option here since I don't know where another opening is if there is one.

What if I used a piece of threaded rod or chain attached to the lid (Chain is probably better) to put the float down and I'll zip the the wire to it or something maybe pull it through the chain loops. I think chain would be enough to weight it down so the float can go upside down. Now I'm just wondering what I should do for when it comes out of the lid. I can't keep it as one wire or when they go to unscrew it it'll just tangle and they won't be able to open again. What if I mounted a weatherproof plug on the garage since it's only around 4 feet from the hatch and used that as like a splice for the float? Just feed the plug from the alarm box and label it for the tank only. Also just install a single receptacle instead of duplex .

Thoughts?
 
#23 ·
Before you do anything, you need to check your local codes. I'm n0ot sure about Canada at all, but here, some states have codes that classify all sewage tanks as hazardous, meaning you would need Explosion Proof devices and seals. That would not at all be practical in this case and the guy might be better off with a simple dip stick.
 
#26 ·
Before you do anything, you need to check your local codes. I'm n0ot sure about Canada at all, but here, some states have codes that classify all sewage tanks as hazardous, meaning you would need Explosion Proof devices and seals. That would not at all be practical in this case and the guy might be better off with a simple dip stick.
The solution is to shift over to intrinsically safe logical circuits... namely the voltage across these switches drops to 1.5 VDC... or some such.

Then you're right back in business. :thumbsup: