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Splices and voltage drop

8.9K views 17 replies 11 participants last post by  LGLS  
#1 ·
I tried to improve voltage drop in a 6 outlet circuit with no luck. The customer's complaint was that the 1500W heater, at the last outlet on the 15A circuit, was causing other stuff in the house to power down. Breaker was not tripping.

I put my 13A heat gun on the last outlet and indeed saw a 1.5V to 2.5V drop between each of the 6 outlets. The breaker output was 118.6V and the voltage at the last outlet was 108V

Since the 6 receptacles on this circuit were ancient and backstabbed, I thought I had a pretty good chance of improving the situation by pigtailing all 6 outlets.

I pigtailed them all but the voltage drop improvement was hardly noticeable.

Voltage drop calculators say I should see a drop of 1.97% at 13 amps for the 30 feet this circuit runs. However, I'm seeing more like 8.9%

Do the splices really drop this much voltage or am I missing something?
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
Did you check the voltage at each receptacle along the way while the heat gun was running? I'd be curious as to what the voltages were along the run.

With the 13A heat gun in the last outlet, there is approx 1.0 to 2.5 voltage drop between outlets as you walk from the panel towards the last outlet
 
Discussion starter · #13 ·
vd = 2kil/kcmil = 2*12.9*13*l/6530


2.5 = 2 * 12.9 * 13 * l/6530

solving for l (the distance)

l=48' between receptacles (if I did the math right)


since you said you had approx 8' between receptacles,
the resistance seems to be 6x what it should be.
are the conductors severely degraded/corroded at the
splices (high resistance connection ?)

also might want to check my math (been a while since I used
that forumula)
Chap 9 Table 8 of the NEC lists the circular mils of #14 copper as 4110. I'm not sure where you got 6530.
So L = (4110 * 2.5)/(2*12.9*13) = 30.64 ft.
I don't usually do this without carefully listing units but I followed the example on http://www.mikeholt.com/technnical-voltage-drop-calculations-part-one.php and got the same results.
 
Discussion starter · #14 ·
I must have been using the online voltage drop calculators incorrectly yesterday.
I used 3 different calculators today and used the formula Vd = 2*K*Q*Amps*D/CM
Vd is in volts
K = 12.9 ohms
Q is approx 1.0 for conductors smaller than 1 AWG
Amps = 13A
CM = 4110 (Chap 9 Table 8)

Solving for distance, the formula and the calculators all give a approx 8% drop for approx 125 ft. As has been noted, 30 feet from the the panel to the far bedroom could use 125 ft. of cable.

So 8% voltage drop for 13A on 125 ft of 14AWG cable is to be expected